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  • Power to Weight for Ratio for P Platers

    Link - http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2012...-platers-30525

    I think they are thinking about this for NSW as well. This would make the Colt P plater legal
    Or would they only enforce this on future models

    Would this mean our car values will hold and insurance premiums to rise?

    A good and bad thing.

    What are your thoughts?


    UPDATE!
    New laws From 1 August 2014, a high performance vehicle will be defined as a vehicle which:
    • Has a power to tare mass ratio (PMR) of greater than 130 kilowatts per tonne or
    • Has had an engine modification, or
    • Is listed in the Roads and Maritime Services document Novice Driver- High Performance Vehicle Restrictions (coming soon) as a high-performance vehicle.
    All Ralliart Colt models listed as ALLOWED

  • #2
    for stock it would be legal. Doens't go over 130kw/tonne.

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    • #3
      I can see a few written off if they get into the hands of p platers

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      • #4
        1. Buy stock falcon
        2. Remove weight
        3 Lol at other p platers at the lights

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        • #5
          Agree with Paul, power delivery of a boosted car is greatly different and less linear to that of a N/A motor. That is at times - less predictable.
          I've had my Colt for almost two years now and it still surprises me on occasion...

          C63 AMG Coupe couldn't pull from me on a 4th gear run last Friday, am still in disbelief... maybe he just wasn't really up it.
          But fuuuark did it sound orgasmic. :-O

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          • #6
            Looks like its going ahead

            http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor...807-2rg9o.html


            NSW is set to overturn a ban preventing P-platers from driving the latest turbocharged fuel efficient vehicles.



            Provisional drivers in NSW will be subject to fairer vehicle guidelines from next year, with the state government due to adopt a national framework that better reflects vehicle performance.



            Under changes to be rolled out as early as January, a contentious blanket ban on turbocharged and supercharged vehicles will be replaced by a formula that calculates the power-to-weight ratio of a car with a limit of 130kW/tonne, opening up a plethora of low-powered vehicles for P-platers that use turbo-chargers to save fuel.

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            • #7
              I had a colt on my P's in QLD due to a similar rule. But my colt was making 163kws

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              • #8
                Of course they have to do it. Heaps of cars now run 1.2 litre turbo engines only pushing 80kws just for fuel saving.

                I guess in a way the larger number of turbo cars around mean that theoretically you can throw an exhaust and dyno tune a bunch more cars and get some half decent power out of them.

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                • #9
                  For NSW taken from - http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...onditions.html

                  Currently rule is
                  The vehicle is a moderate-performance turbo/supercharged engine vehicle. For Moderate-performance turbo/supercharged vehicle exemptions an exemption is given to vehicles under 100kw/t and to vehicles between 100kw/t and 125kw/t if they weigh over 1410kgs and have less than 165kw of power.
                  Note: NSW provisional licences issued prior to 11 July 2005 were not conditioned. However, the condition will be applied if the provisional driver is disqualified for an offence committed on or after 11 July 2005. In these instances, the provisional holder may be granted an exemption if they can prove direct ownership of their current vehicle at the time of the offence that led to the disqualification.


                  Has anyone in NSW applied for an exemption for a ralliart colt?
                  I think our colt falls just on the 100kw/t
                  113kw/1130kg = 100kw/ton

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                  • #10
                    UPDATE!!

                    From 1st August 2014. NSW will be implementing power to weight ratio for p platers of 130kw/1ton

                    More information here - http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...-1-august.html

                    Vehicle Search here - http://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov....trictions.html

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                    • 4 cyl, 1.5L (1499cc) engine
                    • 5 speed, Manual
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                    • 4 cyl, 1.5L (1499cc) engine
                    • 5 speed, Manual
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                    • #11
                      Nice one, never a fan of telling people what they can or can't drive. I hope we don't get lots of people crashing them though.

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                      • #12
                        Starting to see p platers driving the colts now.

                        Even one on our last meet up joined us

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