Which tyre works best for the Rcolt??

[Corosith]

How many Rcolts out there have changed over to different branded tyres as replacements for the original Yokohama Advans?? How do your tyres now handle and grip in comparison, what is the ride like, and what size of rim do you now think is preferable 16",17"18"? In answering these questions I think we can help our fellow Rcolt owners out there who might be thinking about up sizing wheel & tyre sizes or as straight 16" replacements make an educated decision on what to buy. Quite frankly I didn't expect changing over to 18" rims and different branded tyres would handle better than the standard tyres and rims (most probably worse), but boy was I wrong, it's probably the best move I made (18"x7.5 rims/Khumo Ecstas).
Would be great to hear everyones personal experiences on this subject!

Cheers!:)

[MYZ27AG]

Interesting Thread. No responce in 6 months ! VERY Interesting.
I have used a lot of tyres in my life. And I mean a LOT. I usually get my tyres very cheap most times as they are 5 or 6 pieces in a job lot buy of tyres in Japan.
I only use Japanese Domestic tyres, and will only use them, because I found the the same tyre sold by the Manufacturer in Australia is or seems to me to be a different compound. The compound in Australian market tyres seem to me to be harder than Japanese Domestic market tyres. Having driven in Japan I know why.
I have used just about every performance brand of Japanese tyre and many versions of tyres that never come to Australia.
My previous cars were and still are AWD 1990 Isuzu Gemini. Something like an EVO.
Anyway my favourite tyres were some Toyo R881's which only lasted a short time and one very very fast trip from the Southern Highlands to Sussex Inlet and back via Kangaroo Valley. They had so much grip and the Constant All Wheel Drive Gemini handled so good. The best things I've even had. They lasted just 800 kilometers and all 4 were down to canvas.
I am happy to get 10,000km's from a set of tyres. I travel around 80-100,000 km's each year in my cars.
My work Ralliart Colt has done 80,000kms now.
However what I have noticed is that the same tyre doesn't work on all cars. Some just seem to suit some cars better than others, especially when the is a weight difference.
So back to the subject.
I used Bridgestones(not my favourite Japanese brand but they were what was available at the time ) 205/40 on 17x7's on my Ralliart Colt. Maybe a little under tyred for my liking. I thought at first that they were better than the AD07's the lower profile felt more responsive at first, there seemed a little less wheel spin out of a roundabout, it seemed to change direction a little better when going hard through a roundabout, BUT there were a few times when the front end let go in a roundabout not big but I am kerb to kerbing it and I don't have that much room to play with. And sometimes while cornering hard not major just a little slide in the frontend but very unexpected. This was repeatable on the same corner that the AD07's had never given trouble. One particular corner was off camber and upon close inspection it was a little broken up on the bitumen surface. Now I was sure that the other times I had a similar feeling were real, I was sure because it would give the same feeling through certain roundabouts. I must say I'm not a fan of low profile tyres for their ride characteristics and the damage to rims from our pot holed roads. Hitting these pot holes at speed has ruined a lot of rims in my lifetime.
I've gone back to 205/45x16's AD07's for other reasons and I could feel the difference. Although I like tyres with stiff sidewalls I think once you get down to 40 series or even lower height of sidewall there is just not enough movement in the sidewall to take up the little undulations in the road surface.
At present I use 215/45/16's Falken RT615's on the road. These defininately have more grip than the Yokohama AD07's. Definately. I am happy with these as a road tyre. I have some Toyo R888's I will try the soon.
In summing up I think it all depends on how you use your car. Some will be happy and never push the car to its limits, I drive to the limits of my car everyday. (with safety of course). I used to race 750cc 2 stroke road race motorcycles, different riders had a different opinion on a particular front tyre for example. Some didn't mind push in the front end, I hated it.
Sorry I raved on a bit as usual, but obviouly nobody reads this thread so I guess it doesn't matter.

[Macca]

I would agree with you MY27AG, going to the lower profile tyre on sydney roads, becomes somewhat annoying.

Personally I would rather a nice set of 16's with a 215 or 225 wide tyre than my 17's

What sort of price are you paying for your tyres and how is there wet weather performance?

I cant really justify spending 250each on tyres that only last me 30,000km when i do 40,000 a year when the performance of them isnt that far off. eg the extra 150 from the KU31 to the ad07 isnt worth it.

[Corosith]

Well despite the handling advantages I reported at the time (6 months ago), I am now wishing I had bought a more practical set of black 16x7 or 16x7.5 rims due to Adelaides shit roads & pot holes and general lack of maintenance.
In the perfect world with lovely express ways and well maintained roads they wouldn't have been so bad.

Anyway, they were cheap at the time and have allowed me to extend the life of my Advans (still have 3/4 tread left) for cruises - they were only ever used for city duties, if I ever went out of town, the stock wheels always go back on in the name of ride comfort. What I really need is some long lasting road tyres on the stock rims & the advans changed over to a nice set of dark 16" wheels. I wouldn't mind a set of the current rcolt wheels, but I don't know the availability nor costs of these at present.

On thing to come out of the low profile tyres is the great cornering ability of them, but on the downside is the lack of grip under hard acceleration - especially when turning & accelerating at the same time. This would result in the front end "hunting" for grip with a general sensation of floatiness (ie. not good).

Finally, a local pothole put an temporary end to my 18" wheels due to a very cactus tyre, mind you that's the first issue I've had with them since buying 18" wheels when the colt was first purchased. Hence I shall now have a look around to see what is available in 16".:)

[MYZ27AG]

I'm glad that some have the courage to say how their low profile tyres are going especially when they didn't live up to expectations or failed the everyday driving test.
To answer Macca's questions.
I actually don't mind driving in wet weather. I have driven a lot in the wet. I guess it comes from riding and racing motorcycles in the rain. You need to feel it. I like cars that transmit a lot of road feel back through the steering and the seat of your pants. Which is why I have had Recaro seats in my all of my cars since 1988. Sorry thats another subject.
So at the moment I am using Falken RT615's and I find they are brilliant in the wet. Definitely better than the Yokohama AD07's, which I didn't mind in the wet. The AD07's were OK, no far better than OK in the wet, just as long as you kept a smooth line. I didn't feel comfortable to push deep into a corner under heavy braking in the wet with AD07's.With the RT615's I can and I do. Don't get me wrong the RT615's still breaks traction at full acceleration in the wet in a straight line when boost comes in sometimes, but I don't drag from traffic lights, my driving is on country roads and those things we call highways, you know what I mean Kiama bends, Kangaroo Valley, Jamberoo Pass, the old Hume Highway in places. What they call all weather roads and smooth bitumen roads.
I have never been dissapointed with Yokohama AD07's. The are a very good OEM tyre and would suit the average driver in all conditions. Wet or Dry.
I'm not saying the RT615's are the best thing since sliced bread. They are what was available for road use at the time I wanted something. It was a toss up between RT615's and Toyo R888's which I also have but haven't used. There is a lot of talk about Kuhmo but I have used Kuhmo's previously and it is hard to get a bad taste out of your mouth, enough said.
For a track only car I would use something else I think. Haven't given that much thought. However what is commonly termed as semi slicks these days aren't what I would call semi slicks. For motorsport like supersprints or hillclimbs I used tyres that came from the manufacturer with only a few millimetres of tread from new. Sort of buffed but not.

How much do I pay for tyres.....if I told you, you would probably cut your wrists. Lets just say cheap. One day if you see me I'll tell you. And No they are not second hand nor are they some sort of rejects or or or.

[Blaze]

The 215/45/16 are on the stock rims?

[lovecolt]

Not sure if its the 215 profile or the 17 inch sized rims, but the car felt much more comfortable when turning through uneven roads.

Otherwise, haven't really used alot of very good tyres in my whole car owning life (all my cars) and AD07 seems to be best. I do agree that same tyres will work differently to other car makes. For example, the Hankook RS-2 has been praised by the Evo community alot, but it just felt shit to me in my rcolt when pushing.

[MYZ27AG]

The 215/45/16 are on the stock rims?

If your asking me..Yes 215/45 on 16x6.5 rims.
Yes I would prefer them on 16x7 but they aren't over tyred on the standard rims. The edge of the rims don't stick out past the sidewalls, in fact exactly the same as AD07's. I like them and they don't feel too big. Also speedo is now just about perfect.
There are 215's and there are 215's.

[Macca]

with your tyre choises i did suspect you would have been getting them at a decent price, or you would have a 3000 a year tyre bill just on one car :O

Im not too concerned about driving hard in the rain, but i need a tyre thats not going to kill me when im driving home 1am after a 12 hour shift when it starts having torrential rain on the freeway (aka friday night HAHA)

thats what I want in tyre performance to an extent, im not a fan on going 100 around a corner and having the front end loose its grip, yes it happens, but more so on some tyres i have had than others.

thats where semies do scare me a little, in real heavy rain going on the freeways.

would love some on my stock rims but dont have the cash :(

[MYZ27AG]

Regarding tyres in rain. I have used a lot of tyres. Contrary to what many think, the tread isn't what makes a tyre hang on. It is the compound. Millions of sticky little molecules each adhere to the surface until the can't hang on anyloner. Sort of like that sticky toy you throw against the wall and it doesn't fall but walks down the wall. This goes on and on as the tyre rolls along. That is why a Formula One car stays out in the rain on slicks. They only changes to "Rain' tyres when it is raining very hard. Remember they don't have the choice to slow down in the rain. These have tread to help disperse water but it is the compound, which is much more stickier (softer) than a dry weather slick that does the grip. They are doing 300 kph in the rain on very wide tyres on very light cars, so they need tread to disperse the water so the compound can do its job.That is why as soon as it stops raining they change back to dry slicks, because the "rain" tyres are just too soft, they overheat and become sort of mushy and disintegrate.
On the road believe me it works the same. The reason tyres have tread is to clean away debris, because roads aren't as clean as race tracks and because most road tyres are meant to be multi purpose. Dirt surface etc. If tread is what makes a tyre hang on then why did they make Formula One cars have tread to slow them down?
BUT all the road type tyres I have ran all aquaplane usually you begin to feel it at about 120 kph some a little better in torrential rain but I have noticed that the newer tyres are getting better and better. The wider the tyre the worse they are. In torrential rain you just have to slow down.
For a front wheel drive car I always look for a tyre that doesn't have too many side swipes. These cause the edge to feather. Ok maybe it is because I push too hard, but it works for me. I also look for a tread that isn't too busy, uuhhh to complicated. The more block type a tread is, the more the blocks move around and the tyre overheats. Also 215 is about as wide as I would like to go with a tyre on the road, maybe 225. You can go too wide and the tyre won't work because it doesn't get up to temperature and it doesn't generate enough pressure on the road. Follow big trucks in heavy rain, there is this great dry strip to drive in, why? They don't have fantastic design treads and most of them are bald, but they do have weight.

The Falken RT615's were just fine in torrential rain. Don't be wary about "semi slicks" (I hate that word) just put on the best tyres.
Unfortunately it is a compromise between grip or tread wear. I never consider wear life. I am who I am, I drive as I do, I won't change... SO I must buy tyres that suit my driving style. I like driving too much.
Sorry raved on again.

[Macca]

No need to be sorry raving on, you know what what your talking about ;)

i agree with all you have said about the tyres.

The faulken 615s look like they ca dispurse water alot better than a R888 even teh new KU36 looks like it would be a good compramise tyre.

[odysseyesm]

No need to be sorry raving on, you know what what your talking about ;)

i agree with all you have said about the tyres.

The faulken 615s look like they ca dispurse water alot better than a R888 even teh new KU36 looks like it would be a good compramise tyre.


So far then peeps can recommend the following for the Colt:

Falken 615
Kumho KU36
ADVAN AD07 (Stockie)
Toyo R888

Would that be a good list?
I'm going to compile a list and then run around to get pricing. Just to add into here that I have heard some good reports on a tyre called 'Achilles 123' that is made in Indonesia. Haven't tried them myself but the price seems reasonable - $185 (205/45-16) here in Adelaide from Wheelworx on Port rd.

I'm also wondering what sort of pressures peeps are using in the various tyres. I've got some dodgy Kumho Solus KH16 on mine (205/45-16, Came with car...) and they seem to work best at around 32psi. Reletively quiet tyre though.

Any other thoughts or additions to this list?

[alba]

i wish i didnt commute in my car
i'd have r888s in a flash

[Corosith]

Despite the "unknown tag" of the achilles 123, they still have me interested as a replacement for my AD07's, if they were crap I don't thing they'd be using them in single make racing series at the Sepang Circuit. Pity the pricing wasn't a little lower, as the KU36's seem more attractive price wise.:)

[Zadok]

I'm personally very happy with my KU36's, and the slightly taller sidewalls (being a 215/45/r16) provide a slightly more comfortable ride, and fill the guards nicely IMO. I run 38psi front and 36psi rear with these tyres, and was previously running 36psi all around on my advans.

I am also now using 16x7" enkei rims which eliminate the little bit of floatiness I noticed on stock rims with the KU36's at 36psi under really hard breaking. On stock rims I ran the KU36's at 40psi to eliminate that, and it was still as smooth or smoother in the ride department than the Advans.

I love the slightly improved ride quality and slightly reduced noise of the KU36's (especially with my lowered TMR springs) and would very likely be buying the KU36's over the Advans even if they were the same price.

I'm interested in hearing how people go with the Archiles tyres though, hopefully they are decent, however unless they significantly outperformed the KU36's I'll stick to the Kumho's at only about $130 a tyre.

[MYZ27AG]

Despite the "unknown tag" of the achilles 123, they still have me interested as a replacement for my AD07's, if they were crap I don't thing they'd be using them in single make racing series at the Sepang Circuit. Pity the pricing wasn't a little lower, as the KU36's seem more attractive price wise.:)
Of course they would. It wouldn't be the first time that a particular tyre used in a single make series were not the best. In fact that is the perfect place to advertise a tyre because all the cars are on the same tyre so no performance advantage or disadvantage would show up. The cars will all only be able to go as fast as the tyres allow. It is usually about which tyre company is prepared to sponsor the series. Best way to spend your advertising dollars.

[MYZ27AG]

I have just finished using a set of Falken RT615's. And I mean usuing.
I decided long ago to use 16" wheels after a short period with 17's and low profile tyres, a decision I may reget because 205/45/16's or 215/45/16 as I have been using are very hard to get. Those sizes are not available in many performance brands. I'm talking performance tyres, I don't ever consider tyre life. I can't drive slow.
Kuhmo KU36 215/45/16 A lot of forum guys use. Probaly easiest to get around $140.
Yokohama AD07 interestingly 205/45/16 is no longer listed, I like them and have a new set on now.
Yokohama AD08 205,215,245/45/16 are all available supose to be better.
Falken RT615 215/45/16 I've used and like. But no longer listed in Japan.
Dunlop Direzza DZ101 205 & 215/45/16 Have used these but weren't impressed. Nothing bad just errrrr....but I did use 40% profile.
Softer Performance Tyres in no particular order.
Kumho V70A the only Kumho I would use 205/45/16
Yokohama A048 225/45/16
Yokohama A050 225/45/16 my choice but need wider rims
Toyo 888 225/45/16
Dunlop DZ03G 225/45/16
Truely the sizes are hard to get.
Before you say it, I don't want Kumho

[MYZ27AG]

Falken RT615 215/45/16 Use report.
I used the Falkens on the standard rims. Standard everything.
In the dry I found them very good on the road, no excellent. My driving is a lot of fast NSW country roads and usually a lot of trips up and down the various Passes. Macquarie, Jamberoo, Kangaroo Valley, probably my favourite.
The Falkens were very predicable even past the point of losing grip. Only to find the limit.
In the wet the were brilliant. I have always been able to drive quickly in the rain and the Falkens never let me down. Again in the wet they were predicable and gave a lot of steering feel. I would say I rarely had to drive slower in the rain than I would if it was dry. For sure they didn't have the same amount of grip in the wet as they did in the dry but driving very quickly as I do the grip was good.
I have no idea what they are like in traffic light derbys because I never do that.
Interestingly they did give very good tyre life and I mean good by most peoples standards. It is true to say I don't consider wear as a consideration for buying tyres so I don't keep records for tyre life but as the car has done over 120,000 kms now, usually with two large occupants (myself and my employee) and a boot full of equipment and I can't remember when I put them on. So it was a lot of kms ago.
Here I will have to say it is how you drive that counts, honestly if you are understeering into a corner then you are at fault not the tyre. If you drive and push harder than the tyre then you will overheat the tyre it won't work as good and it will wear out quicker. Then the tyre starts to understeer more and more it is compounding. Don't think that this comment means I don't drive quick it just means I know the limit of my tyre and can get the most out of them. I drive very smooth and take corners with the least amount of steering input. Fast isn't always the quickest. You feel like you are driving fast but your time is slow. Over driving. I've driven around 4 million kms in my life, probably more. I don't have the right feel for women but I sure know how to get the most out of a car.
So I would recommend Falken RT615's which sell for around $150 I think.
I do like the feel of 215/45/16's over 205/45/16's on the standard rims, but then even when I raced bikes I always liked the feel of a wider front tyre that most.
Also the grip lasted right down to and past the wear indicators showing it was time for a change. Even in the wet at least down to the wear indicators. I don't mean torrential rain but certainly in the rain I could push hard without being silly.
I found no problems with what I believe is cycling (getting very hot then cooling causing the tyre to get harder towards the end of its life) that I noticed with AD07's.
For those interested in value for money I would recommend them.
One other thing I used the Falkens at a Marulan Driver Training Circuit Day.
It would take one lap to get the rears hot enough to grip then had very good grip for about 4 maybe 5 laps sometimes more, depended on who I had to pass, then start to go off to the point that they would just understeer, time to give up. Under brakes the Falkens were brilliant. Sorry no times, weren't allowed and I was by myself.
About all I can say I guess. I've got more coming. At the moment I have just put on AD07's and I can say that I have to turn the steering more than I did with the Falkens which means they are understeering more and the steering is lighter which could be the 205 AD07's compared to the 215 Falkens, but I know that because my other Ralliart Colt still has it's AD07's on it which is my benchmark.

[fauxpas]

Are the Falken RT615 a semi-slick?

[Macca]

Why no Kumho love :P

[filofaith]

RE-11 Potenza's are awsume but $$$$$$ and there street tyres

Achillies ATR Sport tyres, ive had on my mates evo and my old Civic 07 and they were shiit in my opinion my mate took them off his evo put the ku36s and have been 2x-4x better in grip

[Corosith]

I had someone quote me $285 for a new set of AD07's yesterday, apparently shipped out of Melbourne, so they are still around - a great tyre, but $150 better than the KU36, probably not.

[fauxpas]

Why no Kumho love :P

The Falkens get good reviews (http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews/Falken_Azenis_RT-615_tire_reviews.html)...

For $150 a hoop for either tyre, one of them will be my next one... but which one... hmmmm :confused:

[odysseyesm]

I'm personally very happy with my KU36's, and the slightly taller sidewalls (being a 215/45/r16) provide a slightly more comfortable ride, and fill the guards nicely IMO. I run 38psi front and 36psi rear with these tyres, and was previously running 36psi all around on my advans.

I am also now using 16x7" enkei rims which eliminate the little bit of floatiness I noticed on stock rims with the KU36's at 36psi under really hard breaking. On stock rims I ran the KU36's at 40psi to eliminate that, and it was still as smooth or smoother in the ride department than the Advans.

I love the slightly improved ride quality and slightly reduced noise of the KU36's (especially with my lowered TMR springs) and would very likely be buying the KU36's over the Advans even if they were the same price.

I'm interested in hearing how people go with the Archiles tyres though, hopefully they are decent, however unless they significantly outperformed the KU36's I'll stick to the Kumho's at only about $130 a tyre.


Bloody hell, where can you get the Kumhos for $130 a tyre, I don't care how good the Achilles are if the KU36 are that sort of money...

Coro, is there somewhere in Adelaide that sells Kumhos for that sort of money?

[MYZ27AG]

Are the Falken RT615 a semi-slick?
Semi-slick.......That is a catch phrase I hear from so many people and tyre shops. I have seen a tyre or two on the forum and the writer has said it is a semi-slick...it has so many tread shapes and grooves and side swipes and block pattern all over it, that I'm sure the tread would squirm around in a breeze when the car is parked. I think the Falken is suppose to be a Road/Track tyre sort of compromise, thus the RT I guess. I always look at the cuts in the surface near the shoulder. I don't want too many of the cuts going right across the surface and out to the shoulder, just enough to get rid of some water. I don't like the pattern to have to small an area, because this allows the blocks to move too much. I especially don't like the blocks to be near the inside shoulder edge, this seems to cause feathering.
I like stiff sidewalls.
I think something like a A050 would be a semi-slick if I had to use that word.

Fauxpas, I think your decision to use a after market ECU is the smartest move. Reflashing the stock one is the pits. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for someone to crack the codes.

[MYZ27AG]

Why no Kumho love :P

Yep Sorry Macca, I know you use Kuhmo. I mentioned that KU 36's were favoured by some members of the forum. I didn't bag them. I can't bag something I haven't used. Maybe they are fantastic and it seems many are satisfied with them, so they must be OK. The price is fantastic that is for sure and anyone mucking around thinking about some unheard of brand of tyres should simply use them. They are good value for money, but even in your own report you mention they aren't so good in the wet. Even Kuhmo site shows they have better tyres for the wet. I require tyres that work in the wet.
I don't use Kuhmo for personal reasons. Sort of once bitten. They aren't the only brand of tyre I won't use, there are others that I wouldn't use even if you gave them to me. I like tyres that have Japanese compound, they always seemed softer. However RT615's come in from USA I believe.
My report was on Falken RT615's. I used them I like them, I am going to use them again.
However I will definitely look for something else for a track day. Having said that they never let me down at the track day. I just want better.

[MYZ27AG]

RE-11 Potenza's are awsume but $$$$$$ and there street tyres

Achillies ATR Sport tyres, ive had on my mates evo and my old Civic 07 and they were shiit in my opinion my mate took them off his evo put the ku36s and have been 2x-4x better in grip

Yeah you are right, but these are also a little harder to comeby aren't they.
Not imported by Bridgestone and a quick check on the internet doesn't show any stable supply. Most turn up on imported cars.
Bridgestone RE55S is available in Australia. 215/45/16 also a bit pricey.
Sorry I left Bridgestone out. I used the very first Bridgestones to come to Australia RD102 on my XU1, they were great in their day. I used Bridgestone for many years until Toyo 800 came on the market...arrrrh I could rave on for years about tyres I have used, but basically Bridgestone fell into my I don't like their feel category and I haven't really considered them lately.
So Bridgestone RE11.

[fauxpas]

Fauxpas, I think your decision to use a after market ECU is the smartest move. Reflashing the stock one is the pits. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for someone to crack the codes.

Thanks man... I made sure I had an ecu option before I started modding as I was scared as hell of cels and limps...

I'm kind of surprised more people haven't jumped on this options as some here have waited 4 years for a ecu option...

It aint cheap but it was never going to be, and compared to some 'pretty up' bits people get its money well spent...

[Zadok]

Bloody hell, where can you get the Kumhos for $130 a tyre, I don't care how good the Achilles are if the KU36 are that sort of money...

Coro, is there somewhere in Adelaide that sells Kumhos for that sort of money?

Option 1 garage in Brisbane is where I got my last set for $133 each, but I believe then can be had for as little as about $125 elsewhere in Brisbane. They are the best bang for buck tyre available for our cars in my opinion.

[Macca]

I was just curious why you didnt like the Kumho brand.


Kumho are probebley the best budget bramd tyre on a few different accounts.

Im not talking race tyre or anything, but over all there tyre range price Vs performance is awesome.

Yes the KU36's arent the best in the wet, but put a cheaper normal tyre on and i bet they will stil out perform that tyre.

IMO the KU36 is much like the colt, its cheap but it performs near as good as alot of much more expencive cars.

I wouldnt mind trying the RT615 at that price either, i jut never knew they were that cheap. What is there tread ware rating?!? not the letter, the number.

If you look around there are inface a large amount of kumho tyres on cars on the road, and for someone looking at price over performance unlike MY27AG they come out on top.

Not saying they are the best tyre period, deff much better ones, but im on my 2nd set of kumho branded tyres (KU31's and now KU36's) and im very happy with them.

Would I pay for AD07's for my daily? NO

If I wanted sticky tyre for the track I would look else where.

But most importantly

DO i feel very safe in all conditions on my KU36's? YES

There was alot of wet weather before I went OS, and my front have about 2mm of tread left and they performed super well in a fuckload of rain.

Im not saying buy them, Im not saying they suit everyone

Im giving my thoughts on them for thoes who are curious.

[Corosith]

odysseyesm Quote:

Coro, is there somewhere in Adelaide that sells Kumhos for that sort of money?

Don't think so, I did a bit of a ring around and instantly got put off with a quote for KU36's in $250+ range:confused: , plus they had all sold out (sourced from Brisbane anyway). Option 1 in Brissy sound like the best bet if you want KU36.

One tyre shop didn't even get back to me (wankers), most probably when they heard the name colt being thrown around and they just tried to sell me shit tyres. Tried to tell them the colt originally had AD07's on it but they were intent on trying to sell me some crap starfire tyres - hard to get good help these days!:rolleyes:

[MYZ27AG]

http://www.fsport.com.au/
They advertise Kuhmo KU36 @ $140 per tyre, they are in Sydney
and it should only cost you $70 or so to frieght them to Adelaide.
I just brought a set of wheels with new AD07's on Adelaide and it cost me $70 to frieght them to Sydney. I picked them up from their depot to same money.
Also Tempe tyres sell Kuhmo KU36 for about that price and they frieght them anywhere. So do Taleb.
Ask Macca where he gets his.

[MYZ27AG]

Hey Macca. I know what tread wear is...200.... is shown. Honestly it never means a lot to me, because different cars use tyres differently.
I don't buy tyres at any price, I'm sure we have discussed this before.

I bought the AD07's mounted on 08 rims, they were advertised on this forum.
The owner said they were brand new, he had only driven the Colt home and put on some 18's or something.
The seller dropped the wheels and tyres off to my friend in Adelaide. An inspection indeed proved the wheels and tryes to be new, still had tits. It cost $70 to send to Sydney, so I see them as a bargain.
I don't sell tyres and as nobody pays me to use a particular brand, I don't need to shout about any particular tyre. I like you reponded to someone asking a question. I didn't feel that the particular tyre that they were looking at was very good and certainly not worth the money. At the time of writing I had just replaced my tyres. I simply wrote a report on the tyres I had used. I didn't bag any brand or say that any tyre is better than another. However I had just inquired about some tyres at a tyre shop and I was told Falken RT615's were 150 and Kuhmo KU36's were 140. I needed 2 tyres because my next tyres won't get here for 3 weeks and I needed something to tied me over. So it was the devil you know or the devil you don't. Just like you I decided to stick with the devil I know. Didn't matter in the end because the AD07's turned up. When my new tyres arrive I can put the AD07's on one of my other two Ralliart Colts which also use tyres, but aren't driven as hard as my work car.
Honestly I don't care what tyre anyone uses. A person should always use what ever they think is right. If you use something someone else says you should use you will never be happy.

[Macca]

Honestly I don't care what tyre anyone uses. A person should always use what ever they think is right. If you use something someone else says you should use you will never be happy.

Exactly!

I just like to read what other people have to say about things before buying them, its a good indication of whether its a good or crap product.

Must admit you have driven on a lot of different tyres and know what your talking about ;)

[MYZ27AG]

Exactly!

I just like to read what other people have to say about things before buying them, its a good indication of whether its a good or crap product.

Must admit you have driven on a lot of different tyres and know what your talking about ;)

Good Macca, we agree.

I also read about what other people try and have to say, but unfortunately I rarely agree...Ok don't often agree, but because I usually upset everyone if I say anything, I no longer say anything. Peter Brock thought his ion atom aligner or what ever it was made his car handle better, so be it. If people believe that a 2D brace will stop chassis flex, so be it. If someone thinks that the strut towers flex so much that they need to put a bent tube between them, so be it. Maybe I'm just a cynic or maybe I've done this all before.
Don't get me wrong there are some super smart owners on the forum and I admire them, specially for their openness. I won't mention names they know who they are. I also admire those who admit they stuffed up. I am not saying everyone else is an idiot, I'm just saying companies produce stuff to sell because it looks good. Of course they will claim the item does wonders, just think first. Forums are supposed to help each other to not make the same mistake or give you the thumbs up to something that worked well, but no matter how many times I told my younger brothers not to do something they still went ahead and did it. On that line of thought someone placed a post about some braces and asked what was thought about them. That what forums are for. However I won't answer the question.

You have no idea of how many tyres I have used. Actually neither do I, too many. Of course you are always trying to get something better.
My previous cars which I imported myself from Japan, a couple of 1990 All Wheel Drive Isuzu Gemini's, plus I ran a 'Handling by Lotus' FWD 16 valve 1989 Isuzu Gemini in improved production classes in Supersprints and Hillclimbs (my favourite), these events used tyres. Luckily friends in Japan.

Anyhow end of rave and end of my discussion about tyres. But I am not a money is no object person. I am just like all of you, I want value for money.

Sorry one last thing Best tyre I have used so far on the road. Toyo 881 with supersoft compound. Not even 1000 kms on the road on my AWD Gemini but it was fun.