Eibach Spring VS Pedders

[vlixcool]

Hey guys,

Does anyone ever use eibach spring on their colt? I can get them in aus and price is $389 inc GST. Well Eibach made decent quality springs for Honda but don't know about handling quality.
Front will lower than 30mm due to weight of Turbo Engine.

I'm tossing between pedders and Eibach. Feedback would be appreciate.

Cheers.

[lovecolt]

I think you will struggle to find anyone to give you a feedback on the Eibach spring.

[Macca]

Indeed, Some euro members might give feed back on the eibach's but they will never try the pedders

[vlixcool]

fair enough.. how much does your springs cost again Ryan?

[rokkuchan]

Why not try Tanabe DF series (low rider) or the NF series (comfort) ?? I've been wanting to get some but ran out of $$

[vlixcool]

I believe Eibach is much better compare to Tanabe in terms of comfort handling, and is cheaper some more. Tanabe NF Cost $480, and DF $385

Tanabe Eibach TMR ride height comparison.

Tanabe DF

[F] -45mm ~ -55mm
[R] -35mm ~ -45mm

Tanabe NF

[F] -35mm ~ -45mm
[R] -25mm ~ -35mm

Eibach

[F] 40mm ~ -45mm
[R] 30mm ~ -40mm

TMR Springs

[F] 25mm ~ -35mm
[R] 20mm ~ -30mm

[Corosith]

You may want to separate out comfort and handling as the two may not coincide, and also which springs are progressive rate over linear rate. I reckon the one with the biggest drop would most likely to be the worst for comfort. Maybe also look at Lovells locally, they are very decently priced and according Blaze (who has them fitted), they make the colt handle well without being crashy. Going by his pics, they also don't go as low as Pedders or Kings so there is still some decent travel in the spring to soak up bumps.

[sabeli]

i think every car looks good with any type of lower springs but im sure they will never give you better handling its just the look... im going for adjustables to give my self 2cm of clearance and something hard aswell is what i prefer to stop the body roll = better handling, its never too hard for me.
i might be wrong, i used to have adjustables on my previous car and it made it lot better also had 9kg front 8back :) go kart!

[Corosith]

i think every car looks good with any type of lower springs but im sure they will never give you better handling its just the look... im going for adjustables to give my self 2cm of clearance and something hard aswell is what i prefer to stop the body roll = better handling, its never too hard for me.
i might be wrong, i used to have adjustables on my previous car and it made it lot better also had 9kg front 8back :) go kart!

Not true, so long as you have progressive rate springs with a good compromise on the spring rating,(not doughy but not like riding on cement blocks) plus matched with some properly valved shockers, decent swaybars, bushes etc, I think you could very get something that would suit daily driving and playtime on the twisties. The usual problem though is trying to find some adjustable/rebuildable shocks to suit like Koni Sports or something. The problem with some of the common linear rate springs is that they do make your colt handle well on flat, well built roads, but they are shit on unmade or most typical aussie roads. They are made too stiff to curtail body roll, where really you should really have softer progressive rate springs and up rated sway bars to suit, that should result in a decent ride quality with body roll also being kept in check. On my previous Gti, I had Selby Springs, Koni Yellow adjustable sport shocks, Whiteline swaybar, Camber/castor kit and Urethane engine mounts to prevent axle hop (similar result to the rcolt engine roll stopper), all of that made a pretty formidable handling kit, albeit probably more expensive than coilovers.

Coilovers are great for the price as they pretty much have all the above built in to them, plus the ability to be properly tuned to suit the car, the only down side is they are technically illegal considering you can drop them below the legal height. Best off setting them up, measuring what height you would need for them to be legal (10cm at the lowest point and also via healight height), then get them welded at the lowest legal level (tab of weld or lock ring welded) and get an engineer to sign off on it. Insurance companies may screw you over if you have an accident and have these fitted but not approved.

[rokkuchan]

agree coro. any lower springs will give lower center of gravity hence will give you less roll effect and more pull centrifugal force. The rest of the handling is up to weight distribution, damping rate, preload, spring rate, camber, roll center height, wider wheels/ tyre width etc.

a street car with spring and shock package will be better than coilies. Track car are better with coilies because coilovers are designed to sustain heat, can oscillate at a faster rate for responsiveness than a normal street suspension and usually have higher spring rate to stop the bounce and unnecessary weight distribution when u go around twisties (also up to your skills).

My 2cents...

progressive springs is the way to go. I had Eibach then moved to Tein Monoflex in previous car (both great but lost the comfort for the coilovers). My bro has Tanabe GF in his RX8, it rides better than a Camry but with no roll and good handling.

Hope i can get tanabe soon and give a review on it.

[sabeli]

wow excellent explaination where can you get tanabe from?

[lovecolt]

wow excellent explaination where can you get tanabe from?

Any importer that deals with Japan, can get them

[Bobster]

Interestng comments, but im surprised that Eibachs lowers the Colt by so much, I have has Eibachs Pro Kit on my Civic and them my Impreza and they only lowered the car by 20mm, I can honestly say that Eibach springs are one of best that I have used so far, only other brand that I would recommend on stock shocks is Tein.

I want to lower my Colt but the price of springs range from $300(RPW) - $700(TWR) which is quite surprising how big the gap is. I want something to lower my car by 30mm MAX! since my driveway has a big dip to get in and out of it.

Has anyone had the RPW Springs? can anyone give a little review on them

Where can I get the Eibach?

[lovecolt]

Interestng comments, but im surprised that Eibachs lowers the Colt by so much, I have has Eibachs Pro Kit on my Civic and them my Impreza and they only lowered the car by 20mm, I can honestly say that Eibach springs are one of best that I have used so far, only other brand that I would recommend on stock shocks is Tein.

I want to lower my Colt but the price of springs range from $300(RPW) - $700(TWR) which is quite surprising how big the gap is. I want something to lower my car by 30mm MAX! since my driveway has a big dip to get in and out of it.

Has anyone had the RPW Springs? can anyone give a little review on them

Where can I get the Eibach?

I think you mean TMR, which its not at $700 btw. I think they are in the $500 zone. The price difference comes down to 2 things. 1) TMR spring is progressive spring and RPW spring (i think its King spring) is a fixed rate spring. 2) TMR always charges more, but then again their springs are custom made (which i think is from Pedders or King??), so they did put in effort to make it work well on RColt. Everyone that had TMR springs have nothing but praise for it.

For Eibach, i think you might have to approach places like Heasmen or something.

One word of advise, if you are lowering your car, make sure you don't upsize your rims. With Sydney road's condition, you wouldn't want to go too harsh (especially strathsfield ain't too kind on the road condition too)

[Bobster]

I think you mean TMR, which its not at $700 btw. I think they are in the $500 zone. The price difference comes down to 2 things. 1) TMR spring is progressive spring and RPW spring (i think its King spring) is a fixed rate spring. 2) TMR always charges more, but then again their springs are custom made (which i think is from Pedders or King??), so they did put in effort to make it work well on RColt. Everyone that had TMR springs have nothing but praise for it.

For Eibach, i think you might have to approach places like Heasmen or something.

One word of advise, if you are lowering your car, make sure you don't upsize your rims. With Sydney road's condition, you wouldn't want to go too harsh (especially strathsfield ain't too kind on the road condition too)

I was thinking 16x7 Buddyclubs with a 20mm ish drop

[Blaze]

This is my car with the lovell springs.

http://www.rcolt.com/showthread.php?2828-Tyres-Review&p=111529#post111529

The springs only lowered the car about 1inch. It sits abit higher then the tmr springs.

Cost is about same as king springs. I paid $240 not installed.

[alba]

not sure if this mentioned before... Eibach only lower 15mm front and 30mm rear... not much of a drop

[Bobster]

How does it drive on the Lovell springs?

Are they progressive

[sabeli]

coils way to go :) called DGR absolutely amazing coils

[lovecolt]

How does it drive on the Lovell springs?

Are they progressive

They are not progressive. All King/Pedders/Lovell are just normal springs, hence the price difference.

[lovecolt]

I was thinking 16x7 Buddyclubs with a 20mm ish drop

If you stick to a 16 inch rims with lowered spring, you will be fine. My car felt so much more comfortable when i change from my initial 17 back to 16 on lowered springs.