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Raymond6
26-12-2006, 07:53 PM
If you press down the clutch and you hear a warring noise or a noise that sounds like a dry grinding bearing then that will be your Thrust Race 9 times out of 10. Especially with Sach's Clutch assembly’s it is highly typical of these thrust races.

VW and Audi have been using them for decades The problem first showed up in the VW kombi's and Beetles in the late 60s and carried through to the Golf’s and Passat's.

The only true cure is for a replacement to be fitted do not allow the dealer to kid you as if you have a noisy Thrust Race it may sound better for a time but as it wears it will start to only get worse.

The Dealer may claim that you have been riding the clutch in other words that you hold the clutch down at traffic lights and this is the cause of the problem don't even let them start this line with you.

Then dealer may then claim it is a wearing part and you will have to pay for it's replacement as wear and tear is not covered by the new car warranty. NB: This is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

You should send a letter by "REGISTERED MAIL" to your dealer requesting that the Thrust Race be replaced as it is faulty. . Along with copies of the (2 independent assessments)

You should state that as it has been a fault since new or from the date or from how many km’s on the clock you first noticed this defect. You will also need to state that you will not be held responsible for any costs involved in it's replacement. Make this very clear.

The date that you have asked the dealer about this problem who you spoke to and their reply would also be useful information to include in your letter.

You may need to get an independent assessment from a brake and clutch specialist to back your claim two assessments would be better.

Basically the dealer will try to put you off and avoid this as it is a major warranty claim and involves removal of the gearbox from the car for fitment of the new Thrust Race and the dealer has no guarantee that the new Thrust Race will be any better than the old one he has just removed.

lovecolt
26-12-2006, 09:10 PM
In regards to this bearing noise, its a common issue with all RColt. Did tried to get it looked at by the service dept (400km on the clock), but was told its a common character with all RColt. They even show me to another brand new RColt over there which displays the same thing even before its delivered to the new owner.

So, you reckon we can still get it replaced by warranty??

Sili
26-12-2006, 10:59 PM
So what happens if this issue is left unchecked? or no action is taken?

AK47
27-12-2006, 03:49 AM
So what happens if this issue is left unchecked? or no action is taken?

I wonder if a CVT version would have the same problem. I certainly hope not..

lovecolt
27-12-2006, 09:56 AM
So what happens if this issue is left unchecked? or no action is taken?

Taking from your response, you must have the same thing as we have.

But i think i should make some correction on my previous reply. I have that winding bearing noise when my clutch is out. (maybe its there when i clutch in, but obviously my ears are not sensitive enough to hear it from inside). And i have never heard of the term Trust Race......i heard of Trust Bearing though...

In anyway, i believe this might not affect us much besides abit of bearing noise. Till now, i am only about to comfirm with Chipokee, where both our rcolt has that. Maybe next time, when more RColt come to the meet, we can check again. If that is the case, we can also organize a cruise to a dealership and request for all our RColt to be fixed :D

Raymond6
28-12-2006, 12:34 PM
So what happens if this issue is left unchecked? or no action is taken?

The Thrust Race will become noisier and noisier and eventually collapse it's impossible to predict but from older Sach's clutch kits it generally happens in city traffic after about 80,000 kms

Raymond6
28-12-2006, 12:42 PM
In regards to this bearing noise, its a common issue with all RColt. Did tried to get it looked at by the service dept (400km on the clock), but was told its a common character with all RColt. They even show me to another brand new RColt over there which displays the same thing even before its delivered to the new owner.

So, you reckon we can still get it replaced by warranty??

I have not got the same problem but a werring/grinding noise when you depress the clutch from long experiance with Sach's clutch kits is the Thrust Race. If it is not the Thrust Race then id be very worried as it might be a bearing in the gearbox and if one of the bearings in the gearbox goes. Ouch that will cost a fortune to fix. Don't let the dealer kid you by saying we have to use differant oil, a thicker oil will only mask the problem it's the old Bannana Skin in the gearbox trick. Getrag have specifed a certain type of synthetic oil for a reason once you change from a synthetic to a thicker mineral oil you are asking for big truble.

Raymond6
28-12-2006, 12:45 PM
I don't Know you will need to ask an Automatic Transmission specialist as Auto's don't have a Trust Race's

lovecolt
28-12-2006, 01:09 PM
hmm......i think you really need to come to our next meet to tell us abit more on this issue.

Raymond6
29-12-2006, 01:22 PM
I consider comming let me know the time and date and location by private message.