coilovers

[hendo]

found a set on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/G4-RACING-COILOVERS-TO-SUIT-MITSUBISHI-NEW-COLT_W0QQitemZ120120498877QQihZ002QQcategoryZ55436 QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

[Steve-B]

hendo mate they are alittle confusing to me....
the image you have posted shows the rear suspension as one piece

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w18/Tam363/g4coilovers.jpg

but the variant style coil-overs the rear spring and shock are separate because the standard suspension on an rcolt is separate, the rears are not a single unit..

http://usera.imagecave.com/weihui/KWSuspension/KWZ30-5.JPG

they might say they will fit...but they wont.

[hendo]

i think they may be just a generic pic and they dont heve the real things up. but any way i saw them and thought i would post em up

[corrie]

Hello,

I'm looking to buy coilovers but dunno what?

Neomax - comes under $1k available in Aus
BC - around $1,300 upwards available in Aus
XYZ - around $1300 upwards available to get from overseas through dealer.
Tein - I was quoted more than $2k? Need to be imported?
HKS - dunno where to get or how to get but seem to be over $2k?

I'm thinking neomax as it's the cheapest and easy to get my hands on but have no idea how they are? Then again I have no idea how any coilovers are?

Advice?

[Ayu452]

i got camber bolts to...so u dont need camber tops if u wish to save money...
will release model details of the camber bolts soon

[Macca]

Yeh camber bolts are easy, You get the 14mm Mitsubishi suited ones.

All I can say is research spring rates on them all.

I have BC Golds 5kg Front 4Kg rear both special order rates and not on the normal BC suspension.

The dont come with camber bolts, but an elongated upper hub mount.

Adjust camber will radically change your toe settings as well, always get a wheel alignment.

Personally I would not want any stiffer than i have on sydney roads

[corrie]

Thanks to all who replied.

I'm thinking of going for springs now like Tarmac or TMR ones. Ill look into it further. Heard coilovers are not legal and insurance may not pay up.

[0dd0ne]

TMR springs are epic awesome. love mine.

if i upgrade i think ill go to tein's.

[BFLA]

TMR springs are epic awesome. love mine.

if i upgrade i think ill go to tein's.

I second that. The TMR springs are so good. I just convinced another guy to get them recently and he loves them too.

[Ayu452]

i run tein super compact series coils...will add the camber bolts that go through the strut sometime soon..might try align them myself...and then go for wheel alignment.
i think stock is .5 deg or 1deg.
super coils are a tad soft on the track..but survive everyday drivin..would love to lower it more...but worry about speed humps far to often

[Macca]

I would stay away from camber bolts and get camber tops.

Why? every time you remove the hub you will need to get a wheel alignment, as when you mess with camber it screws the toe setting.

I saw it with my own eyes on a laser aligner on my car. My camber was way out, He then pulled the camber from -1.xto .5 and i saw the toe come screaming in from like 16deg to about 8deg.

Yes camber tops are more expensive, but a heap easier to set up. and stay put

[Macca]

Anywhere, the details should be in the suspension thead i made.

whiteline and pedders sell them



Camber Pin

Whiteline
KCA412 12mm camber pin from lancers. Should fit colt upto +1.75deg
Decent pins with a locking system
$77.70

Nolathane
44250 Identical to whiteline
$??

Pedders
81250 81250 Camber Pin Kit - 12mm

[Ayu452]

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I can't remember. But anyways the typical universal bush of ID 8mm will have a small OD.<br />
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Had to get a new air compressor hose $55 from Enzed<br />
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And the bush with the correct OD will have a larger ID (10mm). Which is what i bought and plan to modify with a insert.<br />
I always got the universal 12mm camber bolts. 65AUD a pair.<br />
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Had to get the flywheel machined, $45AUD<br />
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Pretty! Get the flywheel ground now lathe.<br />
Need to use loctite on the flywheel bolts. Torque was 123NM.<br />
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Slowly increase torque on each bolt, do opposite bolts.<br />
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[corrie]

Hello,

Ive found Ralliart Suspension Kit but it says it's for Z27AG.

Is my 06 RColt Z27A? If yes, then does that mean this Ralliart suspension kit for Z27AG is not compatible?

[lovecolt]

We are Z27ag. So, the ralliart kit is a direct fit. Even if its Z27A, it will fit too.

[corrie]

We are Z27ag. So, the ralliart kit is a direct fit. Even if its Z27A, it will fit too.

Thanks lovecolt.

It confused me cause the site had

RColt Z27A
RColt Version R Z27AG

as options?

So any parts that says Z27AG compatible will fit our RColts.

Cheers (:

[Cheque]

would anyone know that the Colt PLUS coils will fit in our cars?
i'm was planning to get BC coils on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/D2-Racing-Coilovers-MITSUBISHI-COLT-PLUS-1-6-07-up-BC-/330595982954?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf90e5e6a <-- Colt Plus
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BC-Racing-Coilovers-suit-MITSUBISHI-COLT-07-/150647615243?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23134c2f0b <-- BC coils

[lovecolt]

Thanks lovecolt.

It confused me cause the site had

RColt Z27A
RColt Version R Z27AG

as options?

So any parts that says Z27AG compatible will fit our RColts.

Cheers (:

Anything z27a or z27ag will fit us. That's all you need to know.


would anyone know that the Colt PLUS coils will fit in our cars?
i'm was planning to get BC coils on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/D2-Racing-Coilovers-MITSUBISHI-COLT-PLUS-1-6-07-up-BC-/330595982954?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf90e5e6a <-- Colt Plus
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BC-Racing-Coilovers-suit-MITSUBISHI-COLT-07-/150647615243?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item23134c2f0b <-- BC coils

BC is a Taiwan brand and there's only colt plus in Taiwan. Therefore, there's never a colt hatch specific BC coilover. But because the suspension between the colt / coltplus are the same, it can be inter used. So, every single BC user on this forum, has the coltplus BC coilover.

[Macca]

I have the colt plus BC golds in my car.

I ordered the custom spring rated 5kg front 4kg rear.

I wouldn't want any stiffer in the rear

[steel]

I wouldn't want any stiffer in the rear

That's what she said.

[Corosith]

As per the D2 racing website, they do specify a set of coilovers specifically for the colt ralliart version-r, I'd just message the seller to see if they can get them in at the same price if there is any confusion over any difference between the colt plus and rcolt. There may be different springs rate for both cars, so I'd check that as well.

Here's another brand that may fit:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KIDO-RACING-COILOVER-07-MITSUBISHI-COLT-PLUS-SUSPENSION-/250636788640?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a5b1de3a0

Also K-Sport also do coilovers specifically for the colt, but they seem quite pricey, it may be worth contacting Runuts in the vendors section to see what he can recommend or what pricing he can do before committing, remember postage will not be cheap from Europe if buying from there on ebay.

Lastly, another option is to buy through a third party vendor on the Japanese Yahoo auctions, you should be able to pick up say a set of genuine Blitz coilovers for around $1200 (not including P&H).

[sabeli]

Hey what do you guys think of these coilovers, ive been chatting to this guy for over a week you can choose any setting you want kg at front and rear etc... soft hard knob on top, he rekons they are awesome just making sure if anyone knows anything about it cause im one click away to buy them :)

and he said he can build to fit the car 100% straight fit.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110612808243&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123

[Macca]

Hmm interesting, I wonder if he can make Camber tops or camber / castor tops for us

[MYZ27AG]

I have been considering these also for awhile and have been in contact with them
Cederic right?
It is my belief that there is no shock absorber damping adjustment for the $810
You only get height adjustment.
You pay extra for dampening adjustment..read carefully (but maybe I can't read)
Once you start to get the features need then they become just as expensive as BS's for example.
The test car has spring rates of 16mm/kg which is around 900lbs/inch. Perfect for a billiard table surface.
They are so hard there would be more suspension movement in the tyre sidewalls.
Anywonder he has to turn in so hard............don't matter.
Although there is a school of thought that you make the suspension so hard that there is no suspension movement and you won't have suspension geometry problems.
Anyway that is getting sidetracked.

They do offer some good features that I certainly would option but as I said they start to become expensive.
I do like the availability of rebuild parts and parts in general so that you can modify the units.
Problem for me is that I don't know how well they work.
But truely I don't know how good BC's are or Cusco or HKS for that matter.
I am still considering them.

[sabeli]

I have been considering these also for awhile and have been in contact with them
Cederic right?
It is my belief that there is no shock absorber damping adjustment for the $810
You only get height adjustment.
You pay extra for dampening adjustment..read carefully (but maybe I can't read)
Once you start to get the features need then they become just as expensive as BS's for example.
The test car has spring rates of 16mm/kg which is around 900lbs/inch. Perfect for a billiard table surface.
They are so hard there would be more suspension movement in the tyre sidewalls.
Anywonder he has to turn in so hard............don't matter.
Although there is a school of thought that you make the suspension so hard that there is no suspension movement and you won't have suspension geometry problems.
Anyway that is getting sidetracked.

They do offer some good features that I certainly would option but as I said they start to become expensive.
I do like the availability of rebuild parts and parts in general so that you can modify the units.
Problem for me is that I don't know how well they work.
But truely I don't know how good BC's are or Cusco or HKS for that matter.
I am still considering them.

yea that is exactly what i was thinking.. i wouldnt go for rock hard, prob 8kg front and 7kg back should be fine i guess, but still how long will they last gggrrrrr

[MYZ27AG]

Lastly, another option is to buy through a third party vendor on the Japanese Yahoo auctions, you should be able to pick up say a set of genuine Blitz coilovers for around $1200 (not including P&H).

Blitz are available here in Sydney $1499. 2 sets
Do you know who makes Blitz?........

[Cheque]

Blitz are available here in Sydney $1499. 2 sets
Do you know who makes Blitz?........

isn't most blitz stuff JDM? thats pretty cheap though $1499 for blitz coils.

[MYZ27AG]

isn't most blitz stuff JDM? thats pretty cheap though $1499 for blitz coils.

By JDM, you mean, sold only in japan, as in Japanese Domestic Market Only
No, There is an Australian agent.
And 2 sets were available at $1499 last time I looked.

My point was, who actually makes them. Are they actually the same as someone else's ?
I have done trade shows in Hong Kong and China and you might just be surprised who does what.
Taiwan makes a lot of good stuff also, yes, probably from factories on mainland China.

I am not picking on Blitz, I am just saying that sometimes somethings are just rebadged, other times they may be made to exacting standards for the name brand by a lesser or unknown company.

Anyway compare apples with apples.
Some coil-overs have adjustable camber plates others don't for example.
So maybe, well I will leave that up to you (meaning anyone interested in buying coilovers) to figure it out.

[MYZ27AG]

yea that is exactly what i was thinking.. i wouldnt go for rock hard, prob 8kg front and 7kg back should be fine i guess, but still how long will they last gggrrrrr

How long will they last is the 6 million dollar question.
As is another question, How good are they ?

As for spring rates, I personally think 8kg/mm front and 7kg/mm rear is still too hard for the road, but it is up to you.
I would think maybe 5-6kg/mm on the front and 4kg/mm on the back.

I am seriously considering getting some made to how I would like them to be.

[Corosith]

Blitz are available here in Sydney $1499. 2 sets
Do you know who makes Blitz?........

I believe BC make them for Blitz, doesn't necessarily mean they are the exact same item though.

[Macca]

Ill 2nd the spring rates again

I have 5kg front and 4kg rear.

the fronts are not too bad, but the rears are, they also preload a heap due to the design of the spring and separate shock design.

Does he already sell strut tops for the colt?

what does he need to make them??

[MYZ27AG]

I believe BC make them for Blitz, doesn't necessarily mean they are the exact same item though.

Yes they do, so I believe.
I said that sometimes rebadged sometimes built to a request by a name brand and not just talking about Blitz.

However the Blitz are the equivalent to BC V1's.
Thats all. That's it. Just pointing out some facts.

I had the same problem..couldn't decide between the unknown or the name brand....so I bought BC BR Series.
But I have been thinking ever since and I am still looking at the alternative.

[odysseyesm]

I think what you're trying to say is that they are made under licence. Nothing unusual there, happens in plenty of industries.
If u look u can find out who does what.

[MYZ27AG]

Ill 2nd the spring rates again

I have 5kg front and 4kg rear.

the fronts are not too bad, but the rears are, they also preload a heap due to the design of the spring and separate shock design.

Does he already sell strut tops for the colt?

what does he need to make them??

Yeah I agree 5kg/mm front and 4kg/mm rear.
A wheel rate of 7kg/mm is something for an improved production race car running on radials.
Everyone has there own idea on just how hard their suspension should be.

Didn't your BC's have camber adjusting plates ?

With regards the other maker of coil-overs I've been talking to, well they claim to make a lot but their site says they have made over 250 sets. That bothered me.
But I like their options. I will keep pursuing them and I think I will get some made.
I'll keep you informed.

[Macca]

Nah they didnt, Just an elongated hole on the upper hub bolt to give about a 1mm of camber, which did make a difference.

[MYZ27AG]

I think what you're trying to say is that they are made under licence. Nothing unusual there, happens in plenty of industries.
If u look u can find out who does what.

Yeah...Maybe......... but my understanding is that when someone has a product and someone else wants to make that product themselves (that is produce it), then they can manufacture it under licence.
What I am talking about is when someone has a respected brand name and decides to expand their business,
then they look around at a lesser know brand who is already manufacturing the product they wish to market
and with maybe a change in colour or some minor change the lesser know brand is sold as the well know brand for more money. Badge engineering it used to be called.
For example Toyota (aka Holden) Lexan or Holden (aka Suzuki swift) Barina for example.

I have a pretty fair idea of who does what but I don't know the input between the companies so there is no point in saying who is making what for who.
Knowing, helps me decide what product I choose.

[MYZ27AG]

Nah they didnt, Just an elongated hole on the upper hub bolt to give about a 1mm of camber, which did make a difference.


Macca you can buy the camber plate you want from BC for your BC's

[sabeli]

I have no idea how hard they be in kgs. Can someone give me a ruff idea of stock suspensions 2-3kgs? so i can imagine the stiffness then think aobut it what i like.

[odysseyesm]

I have no idea how hard they be in kgs. Can someone give me a ruff idea of stock suspensions 2-3kgs? so i can imagine the stiffness then think aobut it what i like.

Couldn't say without getting them tested.
What about going to the dude selling the shocks and telling them how much the car weighs? That should give you a ball park figure, then again maybe not... I don't know a lot about springs.
From what I've read and what Macca says I'd go the lighter weights. The typical Jap spring rates are hard as fuck 'cause they have much smoother roads over there.
Keen to see how it goes with these coil overs mate - might get a set myself.

[rokkuchan]

stock should be around 2kg/mm .

I reckon the pedders spring is about 4kg/mm.

I've had 12kg/mm coilovers in S2k and 6kg/mm as stock.

[Macca]

stock ones yeh would be lower than my BC's for sure, And the shock pre load does make a fair difference as well

[MYZ27AG]

You will never be able to imagine how much harder a spring will be.
But I agree if you know the standard rate then you can calculate what percentage increase you would want.
Don't compare the spring rate in one car to another.
It is the Wheel Rate that you need to calculate.
A car with a wishbone front suspension for example could have (and usually does have) twice the spring rate but still the same wheel rate.
You have to calculate the motion ratio.
You can basically compare most Macpherson strut suspension though.
The hardest to get right is the rear because it is the lightest.

It isn't just the ride or comfort that you should take into consideration.

I have just put BC coil overs in my car 5kg/mm front and 4kg/mm rear.
In my opinion I would like to go softer in the front and maybe the rear also because;
Even after I have tuned the dampening, the car skips on the front over bumps when accelerating hard.
That is it looses traction where it didn't on stock springs.

The car is setup only 25mm lower all round and I have very little preload on the springs so that I get as much droop as possible.

Just depends what you want from the suspension.
A ride and handling of a billycart or traction and handling over all sorts of conditions.
That is your choice.

[wombat]

Even after I have tuned the dampening, the car skips on the front over bumps when accelerating hard.
That is it looses traction where it didn't on stock springs.

Just depends what you want from the suspension.
A ride and handling of a billycart or traction and handling over all sorts of conditions.

Hence why i've steered away from altering the springs on my car. I personally think that the colt's factory settings are quite well dialed for normal and spirited road use, with sufficient damping/rebound, especially for the far-from-smooth bitumen we experience in Adelaide. Sufficient suspension travel also allows the wheels to track the road surface better for superior contact. If you look at any tarmac rally car (not a track set-up), they will retain near/at factory ride height to help the wheels track and avoid bottoming out. Having a few mates who race tarmac road rally events, the general consensus is to 'dumb down' the chassis response a little and dial in some understeer into the set-up.

If you track the car occasionally, coil-overs may be warranted. I think the key as Macca and co. have mentioned is to carefully think about the weighting of the springs. Also, if you're going to go to the effort of installing coil overs, take it somewhere to get them corner weighted to make the most out of them.

If only they made adjustable aftermarket shock absorbers for the colt, i'd be grabbing a set and installing the stock springs with them.

But as said its all down to personal choice.

[odysseyesm]

Agree with Wombat & MYZ27AG 100%.
I've got lowered Kings in my car and although it's good on a smooth surface on real everyday roads you get air on rough roads. On some of my favourite roads I almost have to treat them like an MX track to make sure the car is pointed in the right direction on landing...

I still think the best set-up would be the Ralliart (red) spring/ (white) shock combo from TMR, 2nd best would be the standard set-up. You can just smash through everything with the stock ride height and set-up. Following Coro out to Mallala on one of our meet ups I could see his wheels leaving the ground over bumps, train crossings etc with the Pedders springs.
I'm sure you could get the coilover set-up working well but I'd have to ask someone 'cause I got no idea on car suspension set-ups with coil overs - bikes are my thing.

The RColt does look bloody good lowered with fat rims though...

Sneekee where's that review on your Ralliart spring/shock set-up?

[Corosith]

Lol, yes I did get some good air over those railways tracks, was a tad steeper than I thought, even at the legal limit! Ultimately it would be good to have two sets of standalone springs vs a set of coilovers (or two sets to suit the coilovers), one for track work and one for public roads - if you can afford to or have the gear to do the swap should the need arise. I could swear my Pedders are getting less compliant by the month, and I don't think coilovers would be the answer for me despite their abundant adjustability. Like you mention Odyssey, TMR springs or possibly even Lovell springs would be a good compromise (or import a set of RSR Titanium springs like Lovecolts). With the softer springs you can always make use of aftermarket swaybars to dial out the bodyroll, and some properly valved shocks should make a good setup, pity Koni don't make a set of shocks to suit. My colt is very crashy on shit roads atm and I think a set of Lovells might be on the cards, they are also quite cheap being a couple of hundred bucks for a full set.

The TMR springs were around the $600 mark and the Lovells were around the $200-250 mark.

[colTwes]

i'm also gonna get my coilovers adjusted sometime soon
waaaay to hard
so you guys think 5kg front 4kg rear is ideal, even for bad roads?
i wonder what they are set at now...
think they are maybe like 8kg or something lol

[sabeli]

Lol, yes I did get some good air over those railways tracks, was a tad steeper than I thought, even at the legal limit! Ultimately it would be good to have two sets of standalone springs vs a set of coilovers (or two sets to suit the coilovers), one for track work and one for public roads - if you can afford to or have the gear to do the swap should the need arise. I could swear my Pedders are getting less compliant by the month, and I don't think coilovers would be the answer for me despite their abundant adjustability. Like you mention Odyssey, TMR springs or possibly even Lovell springs would be a good compromise (or import a set of RSR Titanium springs like Lovecolts). With the softer springs you can always make use of aftermarket swaybars to dial out the bodyroll, and some properly valved shocks should make a good setup, pity Koni don't make a set of shocks to suit. My colt is very crashy on shit roads atm and I think a set of Lovells might be on the cards, they are also quite cheap being a couple of hundred bucks for a full set.

The TMR springs were around the $600 mark and the Lovells were around the $200-250 mark.

ohh corosith dont tell me that lol... i just bought the pedders ;/ .... i was looking at lovells other day it was a bit hard to find the proper one and this is what i got from them,

Hi Eli,
below is a pic of a VRX Colt with lovells springs fitted
eyebrow heights are 345mm at the front
and 315mm at the rear
Front springs are currently is stock at $142.17 pair
Rears are currently nil stock and would be a few weeks while they were specially made cost 142.17 per pair



freight out of Lovells to here is $24.20



We must stress that while the above is the result achieved with a VRX it does not mean that Rallyart versions

of the vehicle will be the same.

[redcolt]

Did you have the pics of the VRX with the Lovells fitted? I'd be keen to see how they look, would ride quality be improved if you fitted KYB shocks at the same time as doing the springs?

[wombat]

Any version of the RG Colt springs are interchangeable Sabeli.

[Blaze]

Yea all the colt springs are interchangeable.
Im running lovells in mine.
The height only dropped about 2-3cms and the ride is only abit firmer than stock.
If sitting at the back its pretty bumpy.

[davered]

+1 for TMR springs, i love mine, plus have you considered a bush-kit spring combo? i have the ralliart bushkit c. $450 and it goes well with the springs.

[havoc_rah]

Not that this is what people mean(I think) when they say ANY version of colt springs are interchangeable but just in case anyone with a colt cabriolet (like me) reads this and makes the same mistake as me. The colt cab shocks will NOT fit ralliart/pedders springs, the spring is too big for the strut.

[Corosith]

What we mean is these springs will suit colts imported from Japan, whereas the cabriolet was sourced separately from Europe. It's a bit like the suspension differences that exist between the colt czt & euro ralliart colt, the colt czt has more similarities suspension wise to the oz colt.:)

[sabeli]

I have bought these i hope they are good lol... 7.2kg front and 6kg back :)

[Corosith]

So have you actually received them or is that just generic DGR coilover pic? Just asking because the rear shock/springs assembly is meant to be separate.

[Macca]

good luck with them spring rates, will not be nice lol

[sabeli]

its just the DGR picture... they are the same except the rear ones are seperate i just couldnt find a picture of the actual ones, i will take one when i receive them...

[sabeli]

good luck with them spring rates, will not be nice lol

hehehe macca i know what you mean i really like them bouncy :) ... but they have 30 levels of soft hard adjustment knob and camber adjustment... they rekon it works really well... took me ages to find out about them so yea hahaha :) we`ll see when i get them :) ... i want to be able to drive and have a drink at the same time ... i remember on my previous car i couldnt drink anything was that hard ... like go kart haha . I dont know what springrate it was since i bought this colt i started learning more about suspensions ive got no idea what its going to be like with 7kg and 6kg

[rokkuchan]

you're gonna feel every pebble mate.

those 30 Levels of adjustment, you won't feel them the differences unless when you're on the track doing hard breaking/ accelerating/ cornering. daily driving different story and u will feel every pebble. Lucky u still have stock wheels and tyres, any lower profile won't help either. :) How much are they?? When they coming? Can't wait to see them man

[sabeli]

i was thinking of getting 50 profile tires. got them for $780 including freight with ems, they are making them to suit my custom set up should send them sometimes end of next week. They will let me know :)

[sabeli]

DGR coils have finally arrived thank god ... one thing that stops me of installing them is removing the whipers and plastic bits... ggggggggggrrrrrr totally cbf

[bon55]

Just install blitz zz-r shock today. Havnt test yet.

[sabeli]

dgr are fantastic shocks, i cant be any happier with them 8kg front and 5 rear isnt hard enough i wish i bought 10kg front and least 6 rear:)

[Macca]

dgr are fantastic shocks, i cant be any happier with them 8kg front and 5 rear isnt hard enough i wish i bought 10kg front and least 6 rear:)

Your messed in the head. I find my 5kg and 4kg ones stiff enough.

Try winding up some preload on the spring.

[odysseyesm]

I took Sabelis car out for a spin on Sunday and I was quite surprised how good it was.
It was stiffer than stock but my car with the standard shocks and Kings was a lot more harsh on smaller bumps around the place, don't think mine is as stiff as Sabellis but the DGRs with the 8KG & 5KG springs was really good IMO. Only went for a bit of a drive around some bumpy urban roads nothing sporty but I was very impressed - turn in was very good compared to stock.
It is a stiff ride but it's not harsh, One of the guys at work has a WRX and I'd say that the ride in that with stock suspension is harsher than Sabellis car. The WRX suspension is softer but then Sabelli had his wound up to as hard as you could go.

Sabeli only paid about $800 delivered but I enquired and got a response from the local DGR rep in Oz (VersionR in WA I think) they wanted $1200 plus delivery...