How to remap ECU ??

[fighter]

Can we use an e-manage like Greddy Ultimate or other???

[lovecolt]

I was told for things like E-Manage, the tuner needs to have a basic tuned map for them to work with. If you start off with a blank map, you might risk either Unable to start engine or blown your engine.

For your CZT, there is already ecu tune like Unichip or EcuTEK (not sure if its out yet or not)

[Steve-B]

Ecutek ive been informed havent even started on the rcolt maps yet.

[panaua]

I was told for things like E-Manage, the tuner needs to have a basic tuned map for them to work with. If you start off with a blank map, you might risk either Unable to start engine or blown your engine.


Things are not so tragic!!
There are some working cars with dastec unichip. The dastec company never claimed that there are maps for the czt/cvr but some tuners made it and it is working!
So we dont know if there is someone with e-manage..

[lovecolt]

Things are not so tragic!!
There are some working cars with dastec unichip. The dastec company never claimed that there are maps for the czt/cvr but some tuners made it and it is working!
So we dont know if there is someone with e-manage..

*In Ryan's Opinion*
Well, they will have to download the OEM mappings off a OEM RColt ecu before tuning on it. Don't expect them to just plug in their unichip and work their magic just like that? If yes, then no car in the world can't be tune. This is why when EcuTEK wants to develop a mapping for our RColt, the first thing MRT did, is to download the OEM mapping off Steve-B & my rcolt before it is sent to UK for modifying.

Simple theory, how is a car going to run with no mapping? And no 2 cars shares the same mapping. Hence, either you can't start the car (no mapping) or you risk damaging up your engine by using some other car's mapping as start off point.

[Steve-B]

and the large majority of chips, and i mean LARGE majority, just increase the fueling "in" at some points of the rpm, why pay in excess of 600 bucks for something that adds fuel and has no real performance results. A proper remapped ecu takes into consideration closed looped ecu driving as it is a factory setting, and alot of other things people dont think about cause they dont know what a manufacture does. If the chip isnt by a reputable company that can show you consistant dyno figures and has a large operation, i would avoid such things.

[fuse01]

anyone spoke to wolf v500 ecu maker? they are a auzzie company n i think they can help.

[Frogman]

in the newbie guide to modding it says the greddy ultimate works with the colt... yet it doesn't? are the sing guys using it? could we ask them for help?

[GM Grey]

Well, apparently the ECU used in Spore is the same JDM ECU used in Jap. Our spastic ADM ECU is vastly different to to the JDM version, and have lots of parameter restrictions, hence why we are having so much trouble modding/flashing/remapping. Also, since our car is not the most popular car out there, most ECU writer would have spend time doing the new GTR, EVO, STi etc, before doing ours.

[Macca]

Once again the aussie ecu is different to the SG one

[Frogman]

i think its time we went to mmal and threw eggs at them...

[Darthrev]

are we able to import a Jap/singapore one and wack it on? then piggyback/reflash it?

[koshy]

i thought of that to:)

[Frogman]

Still sounds like it could be a lot of work...

[27AME]

I don't think it would be a lot of work - all of the plugs would be the same, just the parameters, tune and restrictions would be the only difference.

Other than that I reckon it would be plug and play. Just up for some hefty $$$... You will also need to install JDM locks and get new keys and all that. But that will be included in the price of the JDM unit.

My ECU was in the vicinity of $2,500. I will try and find the invoice a bit later. But that came with all the new locks + keys + unit.

[GM Grey]

Not impossible, but then again, the OEM ECU might cost alot as well, and u might as well buy a HKS VPro and get someone to remap your ECU completely. Probably cost about the same if you want a proper job done.

[Macca]

Locks and keys? Dont think that all true.

Immobliser unit that matches ecu and recode the keys into the ecu is what i would have thought.

Is the Vpro compatable with CANBUS?

I may as well find a version R front cut and put all the goodies into a mirage and run an aftermarket ecu LOL

[27AME]

Locks and keys? Dont think that all true.

Immobliser unit that matches ecu and recode the keys into the ecu is what i would have thought.

Is the Vpro compatable with CANBUS?

I may as well find a version R front cut and put all the goodies into a mirage and run an aftermarket ecu LOL

It's all true. I got brand new keys (2 sets).....Maybe not locks though. Maybe it's the immobiliser unit I still have lying around.

Don't know if it's just because they were lazy or because it's what we have to do with our car. I'll take a pic of what I have left over soon.

[lovecolt]

I don't think it would be a lot of work - all of the plugs would be the same, just the parameters, tune and restrictions would be the only difference.

Other than that I reckon it would be plug and play. Just up for some hefty $$$... You will also need to install JDM locks and get new keys and all that. But that will be included in the price of the JDM unit.

My ECU was in the vicinity of $2,500. I will try and find the invoice a bit later. But that came with all the new locks + keys + unit.

Not exactly. Its like how JDM Evo and ADM Evo has different sensors. Therefore ECU is not swappable for them.

[Macca]

was probebley just the plastic part and they kept the actual key part.

You need to have the ECU and immobliser part matching or have the ecu recoded to suit.

[Jacky]

ecu swap is impossible for rcolts. The plug looks the same but pin is not the same. if the pin is the same, we could use all those EBC as well as piggyback ecu that the jdm colt can use.

[GM Grey]

Could any workshop potentially do custom wiring though? althoughit's probably gonna be a very complicated job and time consuming.

[McCoy]

There maybe some good news on the horizon about our cars soon.

[Corosith]

Excellent, I look forward to this news! (I won't speculate):)

[McCoy]

Something is happening right now as I type this, so I should be able to get back to you guys within around 2 weeks as to what we are expecting in output and $$$

[Adam]

Thanks McCoy, keep the good news coming. :D

[bunnybash]

Something is happening right now as I type this, so I should be able to get back to you guys within around 2 weeks as to what we are expecting in output and $$$

mccoy is a bigger tease than jessica alba... info or ban??? dammit can't ban the man with possibly the biggest news ever for the rcolt!

[why_bother]

If the plug is the same, but the pin arrangement is different why can't we find the correct pin insert/remove tool for the job and re-arrange the pins to match that of the AU spec colt?

[why_bother]

Failing that, if the required wiring for the Jap ECU is catered for with the AU wiring couldn't we splice the wiring?

Does anybody have more information on the wiring arrangment/pin designations for the JAP ECU? at least that way we may be able to compare?

[ommeh]

Arg Mccoy!!!!

Share D:~~~~~~~~~~

[trevski]

mccoy is a bigger tease than jessica alba... info or ban??? dammit can't ban the man with possibly the biggest news ever for the rcolt!

Classic!

[McCoy]

You will all have to wait till the cat is out of the bag so to speak.

[why_bother]

Will this 'solution' to the ECU 'problem' be covered under 'warranty' ?

[McCoy]

More than likely not.

[why_bother]

Will this involve buying a new ECU?

[Corosith]

I wouldn't think that would be the most cost effective remedy for the colt's ECU woes, unless on an exchange basis.:confused:

[why_bother]

shut up, i'm trying to ask small questions in order to piece together the bigger answer :)

[Macca]

Bets on its got something to do with TMR anyways

[why_bother]

I don't think it does mate, I got an email from Al @ TMR on 16/10/08 saying they are not doing any further engine modifications for the colt.

in fact..



We do not do any further engine modifications to the Colt.


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[LordGaz]

A pretty self-explanatory statement there tmr_colt :p

Very much looking forward to this! If it works, it will re-write history for the Rcolt!

[why_bother]

Just tell us what it is, what's the issue?

[Morph]

i thought there was a mob in melbourne that was able to reflash the colt ecu?

[Darthrev]

Trying to give it a big build up hey? if TMR are not involved then it might be Mitsi is going to put different ECU's on future Aussie RColts so you have to buy a new one lol, or buy the new ECU which will no doubt cost a load of cash?
Then again maybe they have designed a reflash for Aussie RColts (one that no one else could do or had the interest to research including TMR?)

Let the cat out of the bag already McCoy! and is it going to make 200kw from the motor possible? ;)


i thought there was a mob in melbourne that was able to reflash the colt ecu?
lol Morph I think as soon as something like that is possible it will be a major headline on this forum? where you get such a rumour from?

[why_bother]

i thought there was a mob in melbourne that was able to reflash the colt ecu?

There's been a few mobs that claim they can do it, but they've all either lost interest, don't have the capability or put it on the back burner to make flashes for cars with higher sales figures (which is fair enough, I'd do the same).

[Morph]

http://www.hold-on-tight.com/index.php?pr=Flash_Tunes

i was going to get mine reflashed earlier this year but went with the TMR mod instead, hoping that Alan & Co would bring out something else that works well with their power upgrade.

And i forgot about this too (am in the process of changing jobs and cleaning out old emails)! I emailed the guy about it and this is the reply:


Hello Marius...

We are fortunate to have the Australian Dealership for Piasini Engineering of Italy, which are the designers of flash tuning equipment and files for many cars. The Colt is one of them.

It is best that, to start off with, you visit my website at www.hold-on-tight.com. At least this way you will have more info as to what Flash Tuning is about, and the service I offer. It will also outline expected gains.

From here, I suggest you give me a call, and I will do my best to explain any gaps.

Best Wishes.
Wayne.

[why_bother]

Ah ok sweet, I wonder why it says some builds need an MBC? It's just a bleed valve?

I'll email him too, why not.

[Morph]

Ah ok sweet, I wonder why it says some builds need an MBC? It's just a bleed valve?

I'll email him too, why not.

i wondered the same thing, and then remembered that some models run different boost levels correct? ie at the adelaide TMR mod day, your blue bus ran different boost to everyone elses didnt it?

[why_bother]

It was 0.05 of a bar. I sent him a query on-line too.

Pretty much asked if:

a) he's actually done one in OZ yet; and
b) why some model colts need an MBC

[McCoy]

Guys, you can guess as much as you want. I'm not telling you anything until I get the green light, and no more PM's asking me privately either for information.

We have a test car and things are looking more than just good, so feel free to speculate as much as you want, as you'll only be guessing plus I'm not going to correct you if you are right or wrong. You'll just have to wait a little while, then I'll reveal ALL the details of how much, when, what yeilds and what other mods it either supports or doesnt support with this ECU news.

;)

[Frogman]

Guys, you can guess as much as you want. I'm not telling you anything until I get the green light, and no more PM's asking me privately either for information.

LMAO

i nearly crapping my pants with excitement :D

[why_bother]

Guys, you can guess as much as you want. I'm not telling you anything until I get the green light, and no more PM's asking me privately either for information.

We have a test car and things are looking more than just good, so feel free to speculate as much as you want, as you'll only be guessing plus I'm not going to correct you if you are right or wrong. You'll just have to wait a little while, then I'll reveal ALL the details of how much, when, what yeilds and what other mods it either supports or doesnt support with this ECU news.

;)

Sure i can speculate, that's human nature.

If it's a hierarchy thing then just say it, we all have rules we have to abide by mate.

[alba]

lol show some patience you heathens
some of you have waited up to 2 years for this news, another week isnt going to be the end of the world

[why_bother]

couldn't really give a shit how long it's gonna take, i was sort of talking more about transparency of information but anyway, that mob with the reflash emailed me back

they said its the piasani mob's flash, and none have been done in AUS yet. if somebody in their states gave them a call, this product is apparnetly available now (it's on the website etc) so there's another end to speculation.

[koshy]

so a "long" or "short" wait on the news :D

[Corosith]

Guys maybe refrain from asking McCoy any more Q's until something is properly announced, as it'll only lead to more frustration - the main thing is that there is some progress.:rolleyes:

It's good news that there are now a few avenues to go down for ECU modification, things were looking a bit dire there for a while!:eek:

[stylo]

Guys, you can guess as much as you want. I'm not telling you anything until I get the green light, and no more PM's asking me privately either for information.

We have a test car and things are looking more than just good, so feel free to speculate as much as you want, as you'll only be guessing plus I'm not going to correct you if you are right or wrong. You'll just have to wait a little while, then I'll reveal ALL the details of how much, when, what yeilds and what other mods it either supports or doesnt support with this ECU news.

;)

I demand an update McCoy ! :D

[alba]

how to remap ecu???
format c:\

HAW HAW! how funny am i?

*alba needs sleep*

[ommeh]

Guys, you can guess as much as you want. I'm not telling you anything until I get the green light, and no more PM's asking me privately either for information.

We have a test car and things are looking more than just good, so feel free to speculate as much as you want, as you'll only be guessing plus I'm not going to correct you if you are right or wrong. You'll just have to wait a little while, then I'll reveal ALL the details of how much, when, what yeilds and what other mods it either supports or doesnt support with this ECU news.

;)

Your such a tease Mccoy!

Cant wait for the update ^^~

[Frogman]

i'm going to assume that the big news was HOT auto? how else would Wayne know to ask us here? :p

[why_bother]

i emailed him and told him. (i think i was in kuala lumpur airport at the time)

[ommeh]

haha i was thinkinh the same thing. HOT and Chadstone mitsu are planning something :)

Cant wait for a ECU!!!!!!

[HOT-Auto]

i'm going to assume that the big news was HOT auto? how else would Wayne know to ask us here? :p

Ok.... I am 3/4 asleep still..... Did I miss something.???

If Mitsubishi Chadstone want to talk to me, COOL..!!!! I'd love to sit down with a Dealer..!!

Until TMR_Colt spoke to me ( a few times I believe ) and told me about you guys, I never knew about this forum.

Anyway, I'm going back to being generally confused. :D

[alba]

dont worry about it HOT-Auto... this forum seems to be driven by wild speculation and outrageous claims sometimes :D

[Corosith]

Yeah, just another conspiracy theory! I think a few guys are on edge, waiting for an announcement from McCoy about something in the pipeline for the colt - hopefully we will hear something soon to end the speculation.:rolleyes:

[why_bother]

i'd love to see a dealer mate up with an ECU modder.. then try to sell the car


customer "what kind of warranty does it have"

salesman "well you can either have a 5/10 warranty or no warranty at all"

customer "so i'm paying more for more power, but don't get a warranty?"

:)

[ommeh]

ROFL!!!! That would be gold but hahahaha.

But an ECU mod for a ECU tune deprived bunch of ppl will make everyone a bit on the edge.

[HOT-Auto]

You lot ever heard of a "Concrete Warranty?"

As long as you're on my concrete, I warrant it. Hence why I work out on the street.....

:)

[ommeh]

so if something breaks we can look for you?

[HOT-Auto]

so if something breaks we can look for you?

OH WOW...!!!!

Look at that amazing pink lolly-gobble-bliss-bomb behind you...!!!

{ Dives into the nearest wheelie bin... }

:p

[Frogman]

lol i just remember McCoy saying that something big was gonna happen with our ecu problem and then all of a sudden Wayne from HOT-Auto turns up... i put one and one together but it didn't equal 2 :o

[ommeh]

OH WOW...!!!!

Look at that amazing pink lolly-gobble-bliss-bomb behind you...!!!

{ Dives into the nearest wheelie bin... }

:p

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*insert jedi mind trick here*

[HOT-Auto]

*insert jedi mind trick here*

Why is it I have a sudden need to get on a train in a trench coat and flash for free....???

:rolleyes:

[McCoy]

lol i just remember McCoy saying that something big was gonna happen with our ecu problem and then all of a sudden Wayne from HOT-Auto turns up... i put one and one together but it didn't equal 2 :o

I'm talking about something that has already been finished, thus no guess work into what does what etc... It's been done, now it's just a case of what we believe will be the best suitable tune for both street and track use.

More info soon once full testing is finito.

[disguy2k]

I'm talking about something that has already been finished, thus no guess work into what does what etc... It's been done, now it's just a case of what we believe will be the best suitable tune for both street and track use.

More info soon once full testing is finito.

Such a tease...

[Adam]

I'm talking about something that has already been finished, thus no guess work into what does what etc... It's been done, now it's just a case of what we believe will be the best suitable tune for both street and track use.

More info soon once full testing is finito.

Man McCoy, you have us all guessing what you have done...... how long to go???????

[why_bother]

So why don't you just tell us what it is, and give us other details like price later? Don't build up too much hype if it's a just a computer flash.. other firms are doing that now too heh.

Does it involve a flamethrower?

[Darthrev]

tis a big build up...:rolleyes: almost ot a point where everyone has lost interest lol

[JayMan]

Given McCoy's last comments, I'd have to presume a Ralliart/TMR ECU tune/replacement ECU/exchange ECU...

JayMan

[Frogman]

tis a big build up...:rolleyes: almost ot a point where everyone has lost interest lol

amen to that

[banana]

amen to that

amen~

[ommeh]

Hurry up

TT_TT

[bunnybash]

yep interest is fading fast here too... real fast...

[Corosith]

I see that TMR have a 270kw upgrade for the Club Spec EvoX, makes me wonder how long it will be before they develop something for the colt - considering the supposed similarites between the two ECUs!

Disclaimer: (Don't flame me for leading anyone down the garden path, I am not speculating, simply making an observation!):D

[alba]

amen motherfuckers to all the amens out there raise your hands in the air wave like you just dont care and shake your dairyaires

should have been an MC

[Spaceboy]

I see that TMR have a 270kw upgrade for the Club Spec EvoX, makes me wonder how long it will be before they develop something for the colt - considering the supposed similarites between the two ECUs!

Disclaimer: (Don't flame me for leading anyone down the garden path, I am not speculating, simply making an observation!):D

time to get an evo?

[ommeh]

Time to get us a tune so we can beat and evo LOLOLOL

Only in our dreams :(

[Corosith]

Any updates or developments on this, been a fair while now??:confused:

[HOT-Auto]

Any updates or developments on this, been a fair while now??:confused:

It's called holidays, Christmas, business closures etc......

I have a test file ready to go. Just need to get together with my Tester when we are both free.

[why_bother]

yeah he said that he was going on holidays about 2 weeks ago, get with the program ya douche :)

[Corosith]

I should have been more specific, I was actually referring to McCoy's developments, not Hot-Auto's!:p Double-Douche

[McCoy]

We won't release anything until we are 100% happy with it, but it's in the bag.

[GM Grey]

Well this is what R&D are all about ... waiting waiting waiting etc etc etc (for us) ... but then it is worth the wait when we all get our ECU tuned :D