Anyone thought about stereo system upgrades? [Archive] - A place for all Ralliart Colt Enthusiasts

AK47

23-12-2006, 10:45 AM

I'm wanting to do something about it in the new year some time, it's on my list of things to do. We friend who does this sort of thing all the time says a few tweeter and and a new head set will do the job. I just need to decide what head set I want. I don't like the crackling I get during some songs.

Hi Ralligirl, our CVR in Singapore came install with this as standard. Not sure what you have downunder.

Sony MEX BT5000 Bluetooth wireless CD / MP3, handsfree phone kit.

http://www.sonyxplod.co.uk/images/MEX-BT5000.jpg

You might want to do some research on this. Some of the guys here commented this is a very good headunit and what needed is just a better speaker.

Btw, we also got this.

Sports 1DIN Triple Meter Kit

http://www.poweraxel.com/ralliart/catalogue/colt_version-r/image/s4-1.jpg

But we dont get the Recaro seats, just ralliart seats.

I would rather exchange these for your seats. :p

lovecolt

23-12-2006, 11:37 AM

AK47

23-12-2006, 02:18 PM

Chipokae

23-12-2006, 09:56 PM

AK47

23-12-2006, 10:04 PM

Hi AK47. In your photo it looks like the 1DIN triple meter is located under the air vents, then there is a pocket under the triple meter. so where does your head unit go? does it go into the spot under the air conditioning controls?
got a photo?

Yes, it right below the meter.. no wait ...above...gosh i can't remember! :p

Anyway, both slots are occupied. :D

No picture at the moment, promised to take once i collect my car.

ralligirl

24-12-2006, 10:17 AM

The head unit you get in Singapore looks pretty good. Things like this always gets changed when they come to our market. I can't decide wether to go for 1DN or a 2DN. Will let you know once its done sometime in the new year. It's on the list of things to do.

Sili

24-12-2006, 02:41 PM

lovecolt

24-12-2006, 03:51 PM

Very nice JVC. My last head unit is also a JVC. For Sub, if you are not going too big, you can consider putting it under your front seat. I find the space under our front seats is rather BIG.

GucciPiggy

04-01-2007, 05:38 PM

Today I replaced my standard head unit with a decent Pioneer one from my previous car. I bought an Aerpro wiring harness made for a late model Magna from Autobarn (APP011) and after checking power and speaker wiring was pleasantly surprised to find that it is a match for the colt also. All that is required is to cut off ISO plug and solder on the Pioneer one. The wiring colour code even matches. Next step is some decent speakers as the standard paper cone ones blow.

Raymond6

04-01-2007, 07:53 PM

I'm considering getting one of these, but will have to go see the car entertainment installers to get a quote of the whole package with speakers, amp and sub. I still have no idea where a sub would be installed. Will see what the experts have to say in the new year.

http://www.jvc-australia.com/JVC/client/c_products_details.jsp?catID=28&prodID=173

A few weeks ago i went to find out why the stero in the Colt falls down when tuned up it appears that Mitz units do not have MOS-FET power amps so the output quality is limited. The speakers are of a resonable quality but if you were to go to the expense of changing the head unit why not change the speakers.
The installer sujested that if I wanted to keep your unit for a few more hours an Quality Alarm is HIGHLY RECOMENDED!
The above JVC Unit looks tops and has most things you would need in a good head unit.
I would look for a unit with built in TV and GPS either built in to make this a complete multimedia system. The GPS might even be useful for those days you take your Ralliart Colt out for a Rally or long weekend drive in the scrub somewhere.
I have approched the manager at strathfield cars radios at concord in Sydney he has been in the game for many years so if you have any questions ask him and avoid junior sales persons.

ckwan028

04-01-2007, 09:14 PM

Sili

05-01-2007, 09:13 AM

Hey ckwan028,
Can you tell me a few things?

The front splits, is 6" the size of the original speakers or did you get the mount holes enlarged to fit 6" speakers?

And where did you mount your amp and sub? Just wanted to get an idea.

I've been slack and yet to go to my car entertainment guy to get stuff quoted... hehe

Cheers,
Sili

ckwan028

05-01-2007, 12:09 PM

The original front speakers are 5"
The hole is actually pretty big. But u need to buy/make a spacer for it.
Or just mount it on the orignal hole (not perfect fit) That is what I did for being lazy.

the sub is in the boot with a custom made box.. and the amp is mount on the box due to limited space.

Raymond6

06-01-2007, 08:29 AM

Hi all, I have
Kenwood Head unit
Kenwood Stacker
Boston & Infinity Front spilt 6" (Boston woofer with Infinity Tweeter)
Alpine Rear 5"
Kickers 12" SUB
Alpine 4 Chanel Amp

feel free to share the installation experience
Please if possible could you lets us know the model of the Kenwood head unit and maybe a hyperlink to Kenwoods product discription would be handy.
Oh and were did you purchase these goodies from?

ckwan028

06-01-2007, 06:28 PM

Please if possible could you lets us know the model of the Kenwood head unit and maybe a hyperlink to Kenwoods product discription would be handy.
Oh and were did you purchase these goodies from?

The whole setup I got is very old...7 yrs old.... removed from my old vectra... it is a MD unit... (I dont have a MD recoreder anymore). Then I bought a Stacker so I an play CD and MP3 as well.....

http://www.kenwood.com.au/ is the web site...

from experience.. Kenwood may not be the best... I actually prefer pioneer, Alpine is abit too expensive for me... But so far, I am happy with the quality.

For me, I think speaker and amps are more important than the head unit.

I don't have a special place/shop to get all my stuff.. However the shop near my home in Hurstville, is actually pretty cheap (I think). their name is sound master (I think its their name??:confused: ) (Sorry, I dont like Strathfield CR)

rukboy11

08-01-2007, 01:12 PM

ckwan028

08-01-2007, 04:22 PM

anyone know how to take the door panel off? so i can change my speakers? and also how to get the front dash off to install a single dinn deck and pocket? the pocket costs like $17 and the bracket was around $70 at mitsubishi when i asked about the parts from the base colt...

If I remember correctly. The door should has 2 screws, 1 at the handle, 1 inside the pocket. Unscrew it and rip it out. (by force). The panel is just holding by plastic clips.

Installing a single din deck and pocket should be the same as installing a head unit.

BTW, what bracket is it? for $70? How does it look like?

rukboy11

08-01-2007, 04:25 PM

im guessing the bracket should be the metal bracket inside which allows u to screw the pocket and single din in? i haven't pulled out the factory double dinn deck to see so maybe one of u guys who have found the cable can tell us?....and it is a standard double dinn size area right??

ckwan028

08-01-2007, 04:40 PM

icic.. dont think you need the metal bracket then

GavinTan

21-06-2007, 12:15 AM

JasonW

22-06-2007, 12:17 PM

Anyone able to post pictures of their subwoofer and amp setup? I wonder how people put their amps under the seat because my seats have the airbags and there are wires running into it below...meaning I don't know if it's possible to just unbolt and remove. Then comes the tiny bootspace...not sure if a bass box can fit in there? If a 10" woofer is more than sufficient for a tiny car like the colt.

You can just velcro the amp onto the carpet under ur seat if you're not sure whether there's wiring under the carpet, or you can install the amp to the back seat. Clarion has a slimline 10" woofer that has mouting depth of 3".

Cheers,
Jason

Rdster

22-06-2007, 01:01 PM

I wonder how people put their amps under the seat because my seats have the airbags and there are wires running into it below...meaning I don't know if it's possible to just unbolt and remove. Then comes the tiny bootspace...not sure if a bass box can fit in there? If a 10" woofer is more than sufficient for a tiny car like the colt.

There are a few options available.

Firstly,if you want to remove a seat to mount an amp.
1. Remove negative terminal from the battery,or remove airbag fuse from
the fusebox.
2. Disconnect yellow wire under the seat by unclipping the harness.
3. Remove the 4 seat mounting bolts that are fastened to the floor.
4. Carefully remove seat from car, as not to scratch anything.
5. Always make sure there is enough room for the amp to breathe
when mounting under a seat.
6. Reverse the process to refit.

In regards to subwoofers....

Alpine have a flat enclosed subwoofer that could be mounted under
a seat. A few years ago,they had a product called Bass Engines,which were bolted face down to the floor of the car.
Pioneer used to have a subwoofer that was self contained, and was shaped to fit inside your spare wheel!
Do a search on ebay.......
Or you could have a professional car sound shop mount one into the rear of the car.This would be done by replacing the flimsy board that covers the spare wheel with 18mm craftwood, and bolting a 10" free air subwoofer into it.
That way, you could still have the full use of your boot, and,still be able to have your spare wheel in place.

Raymond6

23-06-2007, 12:51 PM

Just saw this IRIDA Model 8021 Single DIN unit for sale on Graysonline it looks queit good if you could score one for under $500 I think you could not go wrong as they recon they are valued at $1799.00 one of its interesting features is that it has a built in TV tuner

http://www.graysonline.com.au/sale.asp?SALE_ID=99138&N_ID=49

hendo

23-06-2007, 06:36 PM

didnt read the lot but a good earthing point if the amp is in the boot is the child restraint there is also a bolt on the other side that you can use

GavinTan

24-06-2007, 12:28 AM

Guys you've all been very helpful. Now the bigggest challenge...to find the hole so I can get the power lead from the engine bay to the interior of the car. Where is the darn hole!

hendo

24-06-2007, 01:48 AM

look kind of behind the air box and down a bit on the fire wall you will find it easyer to get to if you remove the strut brace and maybe the plastick engine cover

Raymond6

24-06-2007, 12:18 PM

Hole in Firewall now thats easy go to Jaycar Electronics and buy a rubber grummit with an internal diameter that is just a fraction smaller than the outside diameter of the wire you want to feed through the firewall.

Place the peice of wire in the grommit and measure the external groove diameter. (Note it)

Drill a hole in the firewall the same as the External Groove diameter.

Because you have drilled a hole and bare metal is exposed it is a good idea to paint the internal surfaces of the hole. Now the hard part (Wait for the paint to dry)

Push the rubber grommit into the firewall ensureing that the metal of the firewall is in the external groove.

Push your wire through a bit of Vasoiline is handy here.

The good part about this is that if you have to run more wires later on you simply unplug the wire you have just done obtain a larger rubber grommit drill the hole bigger, paint the firewall surface, fit the new grommit. now feed the two or more wires through, and you still only have one hole.

GavinTan

24-06-2007, 01:26 PM

look kind of behind the air box and down a bit on the fire wall you will find it easyer to get to if you remove the strut brace and maybe the plastick engine cover

Hi Hendo,

You seem to be talking about an existing hole. I looked behind the airbox and there is this large bunch of bundled wires going through this hole. Now it's like factory rubber and tape sealed. Was wondering is that what you're talking about. Seems like I have to take the car battery out to reach through to it.

* I'm scared about triggering the SRS Airbags...*

Hey Raymond,

Drilling sounds like an ideal solution however I wonder how people get their drills into those tight spaces. It's so narrow I dont know how I'm going to get my drill there...(my drill is only an 18V...I doubt it's going to make a hole through the firewall)

Cheers,
Gavin

Raymond6

24-06-2007, 02:37 PM

Hi Hendo,

You seem to be talking about an existing hole. I looked behind the airbox and there is this large bunch of bundled wires going through this hole. Now it's like factory rubber and tape sealed. Was wondering is that what you're talking about. Seems like I have to take the car battery out to reach through to it.

* I'm scared about triggering the SRS Airbags...*

Hey Raymond,

Drilling sounds like an ideal solution however I wonder how people get their drills into those tight spaces. It's so narrow I dont know how I'm going to get my drill there...(my drill is only an 18V...I doubt it's going to make a hole through the firewall)

Cheers,
Gavin

Drill 3/16 or 5mm first then use the final sized drill do not use a high reving drilling machine for the large diameter drill say a maximium of 600rpm. There is an another alternative to drilling large holes in sheetmetal they are a sheetmetal punch however the smallest hole you can punch with these is about 5/8 or 16mm you will still need to drill a pilot hole of around 10mm for these devices they can be purched at the flemington markets or at any good tool supplier.
One Big advantage of the punch is no sharp edges or burrs on the inside of the hole

hendo

24-06-2007, 07:28 PM

there is a small bung that has nothing going in it cant i think it was a little 2 the left and down a bit i will check in the morning for you

Steve-B

25-06-2007, 10:33 AM

I want one of these....
http://www.pioneer.com.au//files/products/large/AVICHD3-main-product.jpg

http://www.pioneer.com.au/products/car_entertainment/index.html?a=1&broadband=1
They have a similar one @ jb, without afew of the features ie gps for 1600 bucks and will do a free install if you can talk their language. This double din would be the perfect addition to ANY COLT....and no i dont work for pioneer...id like to thou..lol.

Rdster

25-06-2007, 11:35 AM

* I'm scared about triggering the SRS Airbags...*

Just remove the negative battery terminal, or remove the SRS airbag fuse.

Also.If you don't want to drill any holes in the firewall, use the rubber boot behind the fuse box which contains wiring into the engine bay.

ozdick

25-06-2007, 12:11 PM

I want one of these....

http://www.pioneer.com.au/products/car_entertainment/index.html?a=1&broadband=1

Ah yes - that's the one I was going to mention here as well :)
Pity about the price tag though (something like RRP $3799)
Oh well - dare to dream ;)

GavinTan

25-06-2007, 12:49 PM

Just remove the negative battery terminal, or remove the SRS airbag fuse.

Also.If you don't want to drill any holes in the firewall, use the rubber boot behind the fuse box which contains wiring into the engine bay.

Oh my god...I found a factory made hole behind the airbox and it's quite close to the rubber boot. I just removed the rubber cap and now I've got a lead running through. I'm going to use loads of bluetack to cover the hole though since I've got the leads running through them.

GavinTan

25-06-2007, 12:51 PM

Macca

22-07-2007, 04:22 PM

I got a fair bit of gear to fit, but i want boot space this time, my mirage has none.
Ill sell my 5 channel amp for 2x 2 channels or a 4 channel

But i got

Diamond Audio Magnesium Alloy Splits 5.25"
Alpine HU
Alpine H600 Processor
Alpine 10" Sub

Il might sell the HU and Processor too and just get another alpine HU

I plan to use all the space under them recaros ;)

and a new sub and box will be made too, oh the money.

Steve-B

23-07-2007, 11:29 AM

that pioneer is top of the range, you can get the base one without phone, gps and other, just the 6 stacker dvd player for 1600...eh eh. i'm still keen for one.

GIR

05-05-2008, 10:22 PM

Hi all, I have
Kenwood Head unit
Kenwood Stacker
Boston & Infinity Front spilt 6" (Boston woofer with Infinity Tweeter)
Alpine Rear 5"
Kickers 12" SUB
Alpine 4 Chanel Amp

feel free to share the installation experience

would changing the headunit cause any problems with warranty, my car only has 400klms on the clock

ckwan028

05-05-2008, 11:34 PM

Hi,

As far as I know.

It has really nothing to do with warranty, except the installation job is not done properly and damage the car

fauxpas

05-05-2008, 11:48 PM

Check this (http://www.ralliartcolt.com/showthread.php?t=1186) post by Macca, who's done a proper job, including Dynamatting the doors...

I have alpines in the doors and dual 12" subs... sounds great still, but at speed the drone of the road/tyres etc sap some of the music and it ceases to sound as good... I believe Macca's Dynamatted doors would help keep the music in and the road noise out...

koshy

06-05-2008, 01:00 AM

yep dynomating the doors helps heaps! morph did his recently to sounds awesome watching dvds in there, love the gun shots from hitman in there haha

Morph

06-05-2008, 10:04 AM

yep dynomating the doors helps heaps! morph did his recently to sounds awesome watching dvds in there, love the gun shots from hitman in there haha

Dynamatting makes a world of difference! Im running Rainbow splits up front and 2way coaxials in the rear doors and used at least 1 sheet of Dynamat per door

Macca

06-05-2008, 01:54 PM

i used 2 sheets per door in mine. but only did the front doors

tas74t

15-05-2008, 02:55 PM

Morph

15-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Has anyone installed one of these yet..

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/838-7-TFT-LCD-MOTORIZED-TV-MONITOR-RDS-DVD-MP4-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ110251351944QQihZ001QQcategoryZ677 72QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I think Corosith installed a double din dvd unit into his Colt - hopefully he sees this thread and can comment!

fauxpas

15-05-2008, 03:53 PM

Check here... http://www.rcolt.com/showthread.php?t=1603

Frogman

15-05-2008, 04:35 PM

Don't get eonon... its really poor quality stuff.

I have installed heaps of it and its hard to use and doesn't work very well

(P.s. First post off new phone!!!)

Macca

15-05-2008, 06:15 PM

Yeh my eonon units buggering up, wont read dvds well

(hears steve-b saying told ya so)

You can also get them in australia, there is a guy who is the importer with a store in wollongong

why_bother

15-05-2008, 06:22 PM

Ahh lucky somebody mentioned that. On paper those eonon units look quite good, but I guess the ebay pricing reflects the quality.

ommeh

15-05-2008, 06:38 PM

Remember your not paying more for branded stuff for a reason. 90% of that extra price is for the quality of the LCD. If you look at my Kenwood 7" and compare it to my mates 7.5" no brand, you can see the difference soooooo clearly.

tas74t

15-05-2008, 06:57 PM

thanx guys point taken

alba

02-06-2008, 05:51 PM

bah
i wish i had checked this forum before buying an Eonon HU
I only paid $180 including postage though, so it's very very cheap.
once i see it in the flesh i will make a decision as to whether i keep it or sell it off. cant lose at that price.

ommeh

02-06-2008, 06:01 PM

Their not bad head units. Their just very cheap. Mass produced to the point where build quality is gone. Personally its still good but yer i would consider getting a branded one.

Theres something about a sound system, you just cant cut corners cause the quality wont be there

Frogman

02-06-2008, 06:52 PM

At work we try not to fit EONON stuff if we can help it...

Its never good when we fit that stuff and have someone complaining 'cause it won't work properly which is 99% of the time...

fauxpas

02-06-2008, 08:23 PM

And I imagine eonon is just the white stamp on the front and there's a heap more brandnames out of the same factory...

http://www.sbo2.net/88hk/photo/675/675-01.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/inoculated/regan302-bcopy.jpg
http://www.sbo2.net/photo2/821/821-01.jpg

alba

10-06-2008, 01:39 PM

this is the one i have coming...

http://www.sbo2.net/photo2/838/838-01.jpg

Specifices:
- ISO 2 DIN Size
- Fully Manual Touch Screen
- Screen Size: 7 Inch
- Fully Motorized Slide Down Control Panel
- Control Panel Night Illumination Function
- Power Supply: DC 12V, range from DC 10.8 to 16.0V
- Max Working Current: 10A
- Compatible Format: MP4/DIVX/DVD/VCD/MP3/CD/CD-RW/JPEG
- RCA Video 1 Output/Video 2 Output/CAM input / CDC Video Input /AUX Video 1 input
- RCA audio FR/FL/RR/RL output and AUX Audio R/L Input
- Built-in Microphone in the control panel
- 1×TV Antenna Input
- 1×Radio Antenna Input
- Built-In USB Port/SD Slot
- Built in amplifier FR/FL/RR/RL 4-Channel Audio Output
- 4×65W Surround Stereo
- Image Brightness /Contrast/ Color /Saturation adjustable
- Effect Compensation: POP ROCK CLASS
- Resolution: 480×RGB×234
- TV system: PAL/NTSC
- DVD OSD Language: English/ Italian/German/Spanish/French/Portuguese/Latin
- Audio/ Subtitle Language: English/Chinese/German/Spanish/French/Portuguese/Italian/Latin
- Built-in Radio Tuner (30 Preset Stations)
- FM(3×6)87.5-108MHz( Europe ), Increment 0.05MHz
- AM(2×6)522-1620KHz, Increment: 9 KHz
- Under Radio model, can select Europe/USA radio frequency
- Built-In RDS Radio Receiver Function
- Built-In LCD Clock Display Function
- Auto-memory Function
- Gross Weight: 3.6kg
- Net Weight: 2.7kg
- Install Size:180(L)×163(W)×100(H)mm
- Package Size : 275 (L) × 270 (W) × 185 (H) mm

Accessories:
- 1×User's Manual
- 1×Remote Controller ( Battery inside)
- 1×Power Cable
- 1×Antenna
- 1×USB Cable
- Others

might have a go at putting it in myself. havent done a HU install for a few years but have done so in the past. just depends on the brake control and all that crap i guess. never learnt anything from getting a shop to do it though....

Macca

10-06-2008, 02:41 PM

mine dint have brake switch in it, but on hit on the off switch turns the screen off, but audio still on.

also get the arepro adaptot for the magna as mentioned in other threads, its awesome and allows all solderinG or crimping to be done outside the car, and plugs into factory loom, no cutting wires.

Frogman

10-06-2008, 06:46 PM

Would you like to know a trick to bypass the handbrake switch and be able to have visuals whilst you drive?

alba

10-06-2008, 07:48 PM

Would you like to know a trick to bypass the handbrake switch and be able to have visuals whilst you drive?

please divulge :D

also, thanks Macca... i dont read much into this forum but i will once the unit arrives (if i decide to install it)

Frogman

10-06-2008, 07:49 PM

Instead of hooking up the handbrake wire hook it up with the earth and earth it out...

I do this to all customers cars at work because I got sick of them complaining about not being able to watch while they drive...

I tell them it's illegal but they say 'I want the passenger to be able to watch'.

It also saves time running the wire...

Macca

10-06-2008, 08:28 PM

Frogman

10-06-2008, 08:35 PM

I have a 1500 dollar kenwood unit and it works fine...

Yet another reason for me to hate alpine :D

alba

10-06-2008, 11:13 PM

haha
its like holden and ford but for stereos....
"farken, moi dad's kenwood would shit on your cousins alpine moite!!"

eonon will desimate all once i spend fifteen or twenty grand... overnight parts from japan

Frogman

11-06-2008, 12:55 AM

Nah its not like that... lol :D

I just hate alpine...

alba

13-06-2008, 08:38 PM

the eonon arrived in the mail today
looks alright for $110 i reckon

gonna give it a go next weekend

next i'll look to replace the horrid stock paper coned speakers, but i will get those professionally done as i want the door trims to go back without any scratches, gaps or leftover screws ;)

little by little... i dont need too much sound gear in the car, makes me a bit nervous if you park it anywhere a little unsavoury (although i try not to)

Frogman

14-06-2008, 01:09 AM

Best of luck with that headunit.

alba

17-06-2008, 12:33 AM

stereo nuts, as a general guide, what would one expect to pay for replacing the 4 stock speakers with some 2 ways in the rear, splits in the front, some sound deadening and wiring to a new HU? (not including the price of the speakers, but assuming i was buying the speakers from the stereo shop)

Frogman

17-06-2008, 01:05 AM

As installation costs? At work we'd charge about 160 to fit new speakers and prolly another 60-80 for sound deadening...

As for running new speaker wires its not worth it... if you look at the back side of the cone on a speaker you'll see two metal wires, they are called fabian leads... any wire being used that is bigger than these is pointless and a waste of your money.

Macca

17-06-2008, 06:53 PM

sound deadining will be alot more than that, dynamat extreem alone is like 60-70 a sheet, 2 sheets needed per door.

alba

17-06-2008, 07:04 PM

cheers lads
gives me an idea so i can budget for all involved

with that dynamat stuff... if i cheap it down to one sheet per door will it still provide a better enviroment for the speakers or is it one of those things to either do it properly or not at all?

i am thinking of weight AND expense, so my questioning is double pronged ;)

alba

23-06-2008, 10:29 PM

fitted up the eonon HU today... all working schmicko and looks good. the bluetooth seems to cut in and out a little bit though, which can be a bit annoying when you are playing a video source, as it has to reload the disc etc. only other thing thus far is the tv reception is pretty poor, might be to do with the location of the aerial but i can change that

the sound coming out of it is an improvment on the stock unit and the novelty factor is very high, got american dad loaded in there for the drive to work tomorrow :D

grounding the link wire worked a treat, thanks froggy :)

Frogman

23-06-2008, 11:52 PM

No worries... good to hear its all working for ya ;)

keegsmeister

25-06-2008, 06:27 PM

This is what we get for our RColt:

6 CD Stacker (MP3/WMA) with aux plug in ability.
http://images.carsales.com.au/dealer/carsales/6010031.jpg

Does the Singapore one come with the red strip centre or the silver strip we got here in the above pic?

Hey guys, sorry for crashing the party here but I own a normal non-turbo 5door Mitsubishi Colt and I've just got myself a nice JVC KDG546 cd stereo, but I'm not too sure how to remove the dashboard. The picture which someone posted is EXACTLY how my dash is looking at this stage (except teh stereo is single din)...I can actually feel two knobs underneath the middle of the dash (i.e. below the cigarette lighter) but are they proprietary screwdrivers that unlocks them?

If one of you champs could give me a rough guide how to do it (or a step-by-step would be better) I would much appreciate it.

Thanks all,
Keegan

EDIT: Actually, don't worry: I"VE GOT IT.

1. open glovebox
2. stick hand through glovebox and push up on centre dash panel.
3. pop off dash panel
4. undo 2 screws holding in silver stereo garnishes
5. pop silver garnishes off
6. undo all necessary screws and plug to take stereo out.

go to autobarn or whatever and get a head unit plug too, it'll make life uber easy.

Is this correct?

Frogman

25-06-2008, 06:42 PM

That sounds right...

keegsmeister

25-06-2008, 08:10 PM

That sounds right...

Okay you guys probably think that I'm noob at this but I CANNOT find where to pop out the centre black dash panel. There doesn't seem to be a nice spot where I can use my palm to push out the centre dash panel (alot of circuitry blocking)...I notice there's a small "button" on the top left hand corner of the panel...do I need to press that or is there something that I need to look out for? Thanks a bunch guys. :)

Macca

25-06-2008, 11:10 PM

nah, that not a button at all, just a redundant red hole filler.

you need to open the glovebox reach up under for a small clip and puch it up. reach right up thou. there should be pics somewhere on here.

the part you push is only a little clip sitting thru the trim.

fauxpas

25-06-2008, 11:34 PM

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e293/faux1337/Dash01-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e293/faux1337/Dash03.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e293/faux1337/Dash02-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e293/faux1337/Dash04.jpg

keegsmeister

25-06-2008, 11:53 PM

Awez you guys rock!! THANKS SO MUCH for the pics and help guys. Will give it a go tmr and report back. thanks. :D:D:D

alba

26-06-2008, 01:59 PM

go to autobarn or whatever and get a head unit plug too, it'll make life uber easy.

yep, its aerpro brand and part number is Autobarn APP011 or APP0111 (same shit, different smell)

stylo

21-10-2008, 01:41 PM

yep, its aerpro brand and part number is Autobarn APP011 or APP0111 (same shit, different smell)

EDIT
found the bastard - can someone confirm this is the one, I don't want to order the wrong one and the fuckers at the shop don't know what they are talking about.

AP7011
http://www.aerpro.com.au/list.php?pcode=AP7011&cat_name=harnesses&cat_no=10&cat_sno=

APP0111
http://www.aerpro.com.au/list.php?pcode=APP0111&cat_name=harnesses&cat_no=10&cat_sno=

Damm their coding is confusing ..

Macca

21-10-2008, 01:54 PM

i think i had the 111

said it was for a magna bit also fitted the colt

stylo

21-10-2008, 02:06 PM

i think i had the 111

said it was for a magna bit also fitted the colt

Nice ! Did you also get the part the other harness that connected between your stereo and the APP0111 harness or did you just cut off the brown and black harness off and just soldered ?

alba

21-10-2008, 02:47 PM

i didnt have to solder a thing on mine

the HU had one half of the harness included and then the aerpro bridged between the vehicle loom and the HU harness

stylo

21-10-2008, 02:56 PM

i didnt have to solder a thing on mine

the HU had one half of the harness included and then the aerpro bridged between the vehicle loom and the HU harness

I see .. my deck has a harness to the deck AND open-ended wires at the end.

Looks like I need to solder.

Macca

21-10-2008, 03:45 PM

i crimpped on mine

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/04092007.jpg

koshy

21-10-2008, 04:15 PM

i did the same, walked into autobarn and they gave me one from the cars harness with another plug which plugged into the stereo harness which plugged into the headunit but that wasnt for a colt lol

Payload

21-10-2008, 08:07 PM

from what i have read the top end unit, like the alpine ones, you cannot do this are they have an AI inteligence sort of thing on that line, and you need some special box to do it, but my eonon unit didnt have a handbrake wire

A way around this sometimes is to rather than try bypass it by putting it to ground like you normally would just hook it upto a switch. You still need to flick the switch on and off each time you start the car generally but at least you can still have it on while driving. It cant tell the difference between some random switch and the handbreak one so problem solved.

Gotta love that wiring harness adaptor thing that the stock headunit came with though. All colour coded and ready to go, matches up to aftermarket colours, plus you can just unplug it, do your soldering outside the car and plug it back in easy as. Never seen this on a car before so it was a very nice surprise. Have always had to either buy a harness or attempt to solder inside the car.

why_bother

21-10-2008, 08:21 PM

i crimpped on mine

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/04092007.jpg

looks kinda like what i've been doing at work for last 6 weeks, except about 60x smaller :) .. fun fun fun completely re-wiring aircraft wings isn't it.

from what i have read the top end unit, like the alpine ones, you cannot do this are they have an AI inteligence sort of thing on that line, and you need some special box to do it, but my eonon unit didnt have a handbrake wire

electrically there's gotta be a way around it, it'll just be a logic circuit searching for an earth somewhere. no tv/dvd/combo i've ever installed has needed a special box just for that one reason..

I've done three sony monitors/dvds and the one I did last xmas needed an a/v i/o box that let you plug in 2 x a/v ins and had 1 x a/v out.. that served as a sort of 'control box' i suppose. now that i think about it, it had a 'front/rear' switch' on the last one i hooked up.. maybe that's exactly what you're talking about.

Celection

13-01-2010, 07:00 AM

Boston & Infinity Front spilt 6" (Boston woofer with Infinity Tweeter)
Alpine Rear 5"

I also got 5 1/4" rears has anyone else fitted bigger in the back behind the grill. i want 6 1/2" in there but no room i could see to fit behind grill anyone do it? If so ill take my 5 1/4" back.

Frogman

13-01-2010, 10:00 AM

6's will fit easily... 6.5's will fit with some spacer rings... Or cutting :D hope that helps

fauxpas

13-01-2010, 04:46 PM

My 6.5" Alpine S-Types fit easily with no issues... And they were deep compared to some other 6.5s...

Macca

13-01-2010, 07:37 PM

Faux's type s splits are really small ones :P , Real mans 6.5's will not fit :P

You best to get some cardboard cut it to shape and go to a shop to see what will fit.

should be some pics somwhere of my 6.5's i tried to fit.

fauxpas

13-01-2010, 08:12 PM

Faux's type s splits are really small ones :P

They aren't splits... Also, we did compare the alpines with others and they were on the big side, but they still fit... We were so concerned they wouldn't fit we already had a backup speaker organised, kenwoods if my memory serves correct...

I know they aint huge, but they were deeper than most others... (btw I dislike splits)

http://www.jbhifi.com.au/images/2009/11/JB-AU-20091124-518_17.png

Macca

14-01-2010, 01:42 PM

Why do you dislike splits?

fauxpas

14-01-2010, 04:10 PM

I think in a car, unless speakers are in the footwell, the highs are easy to obtain with normal speakers... Plus I have never heard splits that don't sound too tinny...

heatseca

14-01-2010, 04:47 PM

I think in a car, unless speakers are in the footwell, the highs are easy to obtain with normal speakers... Plus I have never heard splits that don't sound too tinny...

True we are lucky that our stock location in the front doors is quite high, however there are limitations of coaxials that are surpassed by splitting the midbass and the tweeter. It all depends on the goals of your system though..

There aren't too many coaxials on the market that can handle the kind of power I am delivering to my splits. Also, not many coaxials are bi-wirable so you cannot drive the woofer an tweeter separately from different channels on an amp (also negates the ability to run them with active crossovers..).

As for tinny-ness, this is more an issue of the kind of tweeter type that is used in the speaker. Normally, titanium or aluminum material tweeters can sound "tinny". This type can be found in both coaxials and splits.. Perhaps you have listened to mostly titanium or aluminium tweeters in splits? My tweeters are soft domes and aren't harsh or tinny at all..

But yeah I'm with you on tinny highs - i detest them! good way to rip your ears in half!

fauxpas

14-01-2010, 07:33 PM

Just all the splits I've had the displeasure to hear have been too tinny... Whether tuned that way on purpose or not...

I don't listen to loud music but I like my car audio phat, so have never been one to enjoy treble that is ear piercing or annoying...

For me (just me) splits are totally unnecessary...

Macca

14-01-2010, 08:00 PM

IMO they are a nesesity.

Either you like no trebble, or you have listened to some really bas set up speakers.

But each to their own really.

I love massive midbass, and cutting high, but not ear peircing, but I do have a high end SQ headunit i can ture well with,

fauxpas

14-01-2010, 09:07 PM

There was good car audio way before some thought of removing the tweeter from the speaker...

If you reckon you can't hear the highs from a standard speaker in our door positions you need your hearing tested...

bunnybash

14-01-2010, 09:16 PM

no such thing as good audio in a car... too much background noise for it to be worth doing anything for me!! I put in a cheap Sony HU so I could hook up an MP3 player - convenience was my priority not sound quality!

fauxpas

14-01-2010, 09:18 PM

Good audio doesn't mean hi-fi...

Frogman

14-01-2010, 10:19 PM

Yeah but sound quality consists of more than just sound... You have so much more than that. Separate speakers eg. Tweeters, help with sound staging... Obviously you guys haven't heard anything decent

fauxpas

14-01-2010, 10:23 PM

Obviously you guys haven't heard anything decent

lol... yeah... whatever...

I'm 43 and my old man had mad alpine systems in his 260z before most you guys were born :D

We're not talking competition loud systems, just something that sounds good...

Frogman

14-01-2010, 10:28 PM

260z?!?

Wow you are old!

fauxpas

14-01-2010, 11:23 PM

No power steering, that was a man's car, lol...

koshy

15-01-2010, 12:22 AM

more like 43 yrs old wow you are old :p jks

ROB784

07-02-2010, 05:55 PM

Installed some Focal Polyglass 5" coaxes on Thursday night.

http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/images/polyglass_130cvx.jpg

Went in perfectly, I did want 6.5's but I just wanted something straight fit. They sound good for now running off the stock HU, so clear and a decent amount of mid bass until the HU runs out of grunt, can't wait till I get them amped though.

Going to be getting one of these focal solution active sub with 3 channel amp things.

http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/images/access_solution25a1.jpg

Going to be using the high level inputs from the speaker wiring, I know it's dirty audio but the amp comes with it's own aux input which I'll probably use most of the time.

more info Here (http://www.focalaustralia.com.au/access_1.html)

Give me some ideas of what to do with the stock speakers, I was thinking of filling them with petrol or metho or something and plugging em into AC power?

Macca

07-02-2010, 06:01 PM

keep them for when you sell it :P

fauxpas

07-02-2010, 06:18 PM

Be warned again about the stock HU... Amplifying shit = loud shit...

corrie

25-12-2010, 12:04 PM

Ive replaced my stock with Kenwood 6inches front and rear with Sony 12inch sub. It is run by a detachable double din Kenwood dnx7360 dvd/gps unit and powered by a 4channel Sony amp and a Sony mono for the sub.

Sound is very nice to my liking.

pAuL

11-06-2011, 11:20 AM

A little bump... can anyone confirm that 6.5" fits no problems? Or should I stay with 5"

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Corosith

11-06-2011, 04:12 PM

A little bump... can anyone confirm that 6.5" fits no problems? Or should I stay with 5"

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I've fitted 6.5" Kenwood 3-ways in the front, they fit just fine. It think the real issue if any is how far back the magnet extends and whether it fouls the window assembly, I think most guys haven't had an issue. I used Roadster's guide to fitting them (search for his posts).

fauxpas

11-06-2011, 04:35 PM

The vast majority of 6.5s will fit, but there will be some better quality units with deeper cages/magnets that will be a problem...

My Alpines fitted with ease and are:

Dimensions

* Woofer Mounting Diameter (mm): 125mm
* Woofer Mounting Diameter (in): 4-15/16''
* Woofer Mounting Depth (mm): 56mm
* Woofer Mounting Depth (in): 2-1/4''

http://www.alpine-usa.com/data/product_images/340_1lg.jpg

Macca

11-06-2011, 05:17 PM

Its the ones with wider cages from a decent set of speakers that will have issues.

Most speakers magnets will clear the windows.

I have a mega sized set of Oz Audio 6.5" drivers that wouldnt fit in the hole with massive magnets.

Example

Oz Audios
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/Speaker/P1010908.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/Speaker/P1010909.jpg

Oz Vs My 5.25" Diamond Audios
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/Speaker/P1010910.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/Speaker/P1010906.jpg

Diamonds mounted

Note, the holes never lined up, and I had to make rings, and the basket on the ring also covered over the stock screw mounts so 2nd rings were made.

I think I was the only one who ever had issues with that, but then I have decent speakers.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/Speaker/P1010900.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/Macca_gong/Speaker/P1010902.jpg