Service Intervals For the Colt...

[Steve-B]

Hey Guys...
I was just in contact with my service centre about my next service, (thinking it would be the 10,000 ) and this was his reply...

Attn Ben

Hey Ben,
For the turbo models it says in the handbook to be completed every
5000km's.
Is that correct or incorrect ?

Steve,
The turbo models can be serviced every 7,500km's.
It was originally for Turbo Diesels however they have now put them at
7,500km or 6 months.
So no need to service until the 15,000km.
Thanks
Ben Peacock
Service Manager
68 Garden Street Narrabeen 2101
Ph) 02 99999007
F) 02 99706498
ben.peacock@colcrawford.com.au
www.colcrawford.com.au

So what he is saying is that the handbook we have is for the turbo diseal models and that our cars can be serviced every 7,500km's.
What are your thoughts, what does your service centre reckon ?

[aby82]

g'day mate,

going by what the service book says i change the oil and oil filter myself every 5000k's and take it in for its service at 15000, 30000, 45000 etc. as per the book.

hope this helps.

[lovecolt]

g'day mate,

going by what the service book says i change the oil and oil filter myself every 5000k's and take it in for its service at 15000, 30000, 45000 etc. as per the book.

hope this helps.

But there's sub sections for each 5000km behind each 15000 service interval pages. If you just do the 15000 service with them, they might refuse any warranty claims.....

1 Question for whoever that knows this, what kind of mechanic can service our cars without voiding the warranty? I was told, any mechanic with MTA cert, can do it....... Can anyone validate this?

[aby82]

lovecolt,

i thought that you and other members also changed your own oil... ?

[Steve-B]

So.... is the dealer right or not, should we do them every 7500 and not 5000 like the "turbo diseal" book says ?

[aby82]

steve-b,

if u look at page 12 of the service booklet under engine oil it explains how often to change it...

i would go by that.

[Steve-B]

yeah, but the service book they have given us is so broad and all over the place. It comes like 18 models mitsy have. Are you guys going by the dealer or not is my really question. Cause my dealer seems to think every 7500 is right. Has anyone had theirs serviced every 5000 by a dealer ?

[hendo]

im having my 5000km service tomorrow and i would say every 5000km is what you should aim at doing as thats what all my mates with there evos do

[Raymond6]

I will get mine done every 5000kms after all whats $169 every few months to keep my little urchin's heart healthy clean and running at it's peak.

After all it's a turbo so clean fresh oil is a must and I will or the person who purchases my car will receive the rewards of this little sacrafice with a longer lasting more powerful and relable engine.

[|2colt]

I spoke to the service manager a while ago and he said just change the oil every 5000ks yourself if you can but book the car in for major inspections and checks like 15000, 30000 and 45000. :) If you have the money to pay for mitsubishi to change your oil every 5000 then go ahead i rather keep that money myself as i rack up the ks quite a bit..18 000 ks atm...

[lovecolt]

I spoke to the service manager a while ago and he said just change the oil every 5000ks yourself if you can but book the car in for major inspections and checks like 15000, 30000 and 45000. :) If you have the money to pay for mitsubishi to change your oil every 5000 then go ahead i rather keep that money myself as i rack up the ks quite a bit..18 000 ks atm...

I think we should get a written statement from the service manager on that. I'm sure we don't want to find out the hard way when they reject our warranty claims.

[Raymond6]

I spoke to the service manager a while ago and he said just change the oil every 5000ks yourself if you can but book the car in for major inspections and checks like 15000, 30000 and 45000. :) If you have the money to pay for mitsubishi to change your oil every 5000 then go ahead i rather keep that money myself as i rack up the ks quite a bit..18 000 ks atm...

I would get that in writing from the service manager as advise or opions from any manager are cheap but repairs to Rcolts don't come so cheap. If anything goes wrong they will say.

"I dont recall saying anything like that or words to that affect. He was advised of the recomended service intervals!"

In the case of changing the oil yourself I would not kid myself into thinking that they would honor any warranty claim as a result of work you have carried out yourself if you are not a suitably qualified tradeperson or tech.

Then you will be up for the whole cost of these repairs OUCH the $100 or so you save may well cost you $1000s later on especially with newer high preformace engines like ours

[white horse]

As we see the service book and my understanding is service interval is every 15000kms, but oil and filter changed every 5000kms only apply on petrol turbo model such as Rcolt and Evo9 which also need to book stamp on your service book at page 21,you dont have to take it back to Mits dealership to service but you have to have a qualify mechanic to do the log book serviced and stamped otherwise if any problem with your Rcolt,Mitsubishi must void your warranty .
I have done 15500kms on my Rcolt,the first 5000kms and 10000kms oil and filter changed is done by other workshop which have log book serviced,but when my car have done 15000kms ,i booked in at Mitsubishi service department to do the 15000kms serviced ,because i think it would be handy if your Rcolt have any problem under warranty in the future, therefore book stamp on oil and filter changed every 5000kms is a must unless you dont mind to pay the full cost for the repair under warranty.

[white horse]

im having my 5000km service tomorrow and i would say every 5000km is what you should aim at doing as thats what all my mates with there evos do

x2..............................

[lovecolt]

I guess, the real question left is, who can service our car for those 5000 / 10000 service? I was under the impression that the mechanic has to be MTA certified. Or else, its of no difference than changing the oil by yourself.

[Steve-B]

True...but why would my service manager say every 7500, if they had a service book for every 7500 id be happy, cause i want to keep my books in order for my colt. If we can get the car checked and oil and filter changed elsewhere and mitsy for the major id do that. I am going down to the local mitsy dealer on sat and ask him. Maybe the narra branch have no clue.

[lovecolt]

Just went to North Shore Mitsubishi. They are not sure why the Steve's dealer said that, but then again they are not 100% sure too. However, due to the previous experience with ralliart vehicles servicing, it should be 5k per service. And yes, besides Mitsu aus, we can use MTA certified mechanic to do servicing for warranty to be valid.

[Steve-B]

Great, thanks rcolt, man you are sooo much more organised than me. Hmm well thats not good to hear that the people who are giving us advice really have no clue as to how our vehicles should maintained.

[Steve-B]

Just got off the phone will Mitsubishi Australia.
The rcolt needs to be serviced every 5000km's. It needs an oil change and filter change and has to be done by either mitsubishi or a MTA approved workshop. Every 15,000km's the car needs to go back to mitsubishi to be serviced because they check blah blah and blah.
basically all the big serviced done in house and all small services done by whom ever.

Straight from the Horses mouth.

[aby82]

nice one.. good to have confirmed what had we already believed

[DAC]

Good work Steve-B for confirming that.

The rcolt is not the first turbo or high performance car that I've owed. It seems like an oil change plus filter change every 5000kms is a little excessive considering oils have come along way with all the full & semi synthetics etc.

In the past I used to change the oil myself at 10000km intervals & then take my car in for the major services to the dealer at every 20000km. According to the info in this thread oil & or filter changes done at home will void the warranty :(

Btw when I purchased the car the salesman told me minor services are at 7500km (just change the oil yourself if you know how) with the majors at 15000km. This service interval length I can live with but every 5000kms... hmmm.

Anyway I just think that a good quality oil should last longer than 5000km even if its in a turbo engine. Its a shame we need so many extra services to keep our longer than standard warranties :(

[Jusnippinout]

Let me repeat (just to make absolutely sure I'm boring the t*ts off you) that many other manufacturers suggest 10K or even 15K oil change intervals for turbo cars (Falcon XR6T and Holden Astra SRi turbo to name but two). I have owned the following factory turbos:

MG Metro Turbo
Nissan 200SX
Falcon XR6T MKI
Falcon XR6T MKII
Mitsubishi Airtrek (Outlander) Turbo
Ralliart Colt

Of these, only Mitsubishi insist on such short intervals.

I owned the 200SX back in the early 90s. It was mildly chipped and had a Janspeed exhaust (from 170bhp to 210bhp). I used good quality regular oil and changed it myself every 6,000 miles (about 10,000kms). In four years of thrashing it NEVER let me down and the turbo was noise-free when I sold it with over 200,000kms on the clock.

[lovecolt]

The oil will definitely last longer than 5000km, but how good is the condition as the mileage stack up, is the key.

Have any one thought about the requirement of a small high stressed turbo engine against a large low stressed turbo engine?? RColt definitely need every boost it can get for good daily driving where as a Falcon's big displacement might handle daily acceleration without even the need to touch much boost. But, that's just my 2 cents worth of theory.

My 97 200sx's booklet does indeed need 5000km per service, hence Mitsu ain't the only one.

[aby82]

The oil will definitely last longer than 5000km, but how good is the condition as the mileage stack up, is the key.

Have any one thought about the requirement of a small high stressed turbo engine against a large low stressed turbo engine?? RColt definitely need every boost it can get for good daily driving where as a Falcon's big displacement might handle daily acceleration without even the need to touch much boost. But, that's just my 2 cents worth of theory.

My 97 200sx's booklet does indeed need 5000km per service, hence Mitsu ain't the only one.

yes u make a good point there lovecolt.. makes sense to me.. possibly ;) lol

[Jusnippinout]

.......My 97 200sx's booklet does indeed need 5000km per service, hence Mitsu ain't the only one.

Maybe a climate thing? The UK cars only needed an oil change every 6,000 miles.

[Jusnippinout]

....Have any one thought about the requirement of a small high stressed turbo engine against a large low stressed turbo engine?? RColt definitely need every boost it can get for good daily driving where as a Falcon's big displacement might handle daily acceleration without even the need to touch much boost. But, that's just my 2 cents worth of theory.....

You're right in the case of the Falcon, but the Astra develops more or less the same KW/cc, so I would imagine the stresses to be similar.

[DAC]

So I take it that no one is doing their own 5000km or 7500km oil changes? I think aby82 was the only one who said he did.

I had planned to do the 7500km myself & take it back for the majors at 15000km but now after also checking my service book it looks like I cannot if I want to keep my warranty :(

So is everyone going back every 5000km to a MTA approved mechanic or mitz dealer? Damn thats painful since a quick oil change with or without filter at home is not that difficult...

[Macca]

ill be using a MTA guy for my non major services

[Rdster]

So I take it that no one is doing their own 5000km or 7500km oil changes?

My oil is changed every 5000km.

You can't judge every engine to be the same, in terms of design. Mitsi obviously found through their engine bench tests that the RC required an oil change every 5000km. This not a costly exercise, compared to what people are prepared to spend on mods.....:)

[Raymond6]

Get a Quote for service cost in writing faxed to you prior to agreeing to have your Rcolt surviced!

What happened to me was I rang Lincorp Parramatta to book in my car for a service the lady Quoted me $185 and I asked her. Can I get the car serviced at places like Ultatune and so on for the 10000k service. She checked with the service manager and the reply was "Yes as long as they used the recomended grade of oil and type of filter and that the type of oil and model of filter were recorded on the the service receipt"

I then asked her what grade of oil they recomend for the Rcolt she checked with her workshop forman and the she told me they use 5w-30 semi synthetic.

I then asked he if you could use a fully synthetic oil? She checked and replied "Yes you can".

I checked around and found that ultatune in my area charged $165 so for only $20 and eice of mind or so I thort I booked into Parramatta Lincorp Service Centre for 10000k service on friday

So I rang up on thursday to check if all was well for bringing my car in on friday the 17th and they said "yes all is ok" I again asked how much the service just to confirm her quote she said " $240 is the normal charge for the 10000k service. I saw red and after a short sharp conversation she conceded that she would charge me $185 minus $55 because I purchased the fully synthetic oil myself.

Thank god it was a free service anyhow I just wanted to see if they were fair dinkum about customer service

SO BE WARNED GET YOUR QUOTE,S FOR SERVICE IN WRITING:mad:

[DAC]

Thanks for the heads up, Raymond6 & everyone else's replies. Looks like my hands & finger nails will be staying clean from not doing my own oil/filter changes [sob sob]...

[McCoy]

I thought I'd take the time and do some research on this, firstly what steve b said is 100% correct:


Just got off the phone will Mitsubishi Australia.
The rcolt needs to be serviced every 5000km's. It needs an oil change and filter change and has to be done by either mitsubishi or a MTA approved workshop. Every 15,000km's the car needs to go back to mitsubishi to be serviced because they check blah blah and blah.
basically all the big serviced done in house and all small services done by whom ever.

Straight from the Horses mouth.

I have spoken to Mistubishi Australia regarding this, and to the letter that above statement is 100% correct! (apart from the blah blah blah part :p )
Having said that if you decide to take it to a Ralliart dealer this is an indication of what we charge.

5,000kms intervals = $150 Incl GST
15,000km intervals = $238 Incl GST

Now I dont know how that stacks up with other dealers, but feel free to use it as a guide as thats what we charge, also Rallairt customers from here will get a free loan car while their car is in for service, but that would be arranged from the front end of the buisness, so ask me about it.

Chadstone Mitsubishi - 9569 0811

~ Dan

[Macca]

Well i had my $5000 km service done on friday 28/9

And was $107.95

$45 Labour
$23.98 Oil
$8.50 Waste Disposal
$1.38 Sump washer
$19.27 Oil Filter
$9.81 GST

Quite a resonable price, that also included a road test and visual inspection of the car.

[Steve-B]

thats pretty good macca,

[Macca]

indeed, ill be taking it back regulary at the price, most other mechanics would be around the same, but for the ralliart trained mechanic doing it im all thumbs up.

[Mobydisc]

Well i had my $5000 km service done on friday 28/9

And was $107.95

$45 Labour
$23.98 Oil
$8.50 Waste Disposal
$1.38 Sump washer
$19.27 Oil Filter
$9.81 GST

Quite a resonable price, that also included a road test and visual inspection of the car.

Where did you get it serviced?

[Macca]

pembers mitsubishi

woonona nsw

(in the illawarra)

they are a ralliart dealer with ralliart mechanic