Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 - OEM Supply Chain Petition

[Noel]

As most owners on the forum already know, the OEM factory supplied 205/45/R16 AD07s are becoming an instant rarity and much sought after consortium.

The official word from Yokohama Australia this week (2nd April 07) is, "an official 3 month wait". However, this is cover-up BS considering they have no ETA on when they will arrive into the country. And there is no production indication.

My contacts in Japan have indicated, there is no production or supply problems. In fact, if you walk into any tyre dealers/shop. You'd be able to get as many as you like or need. However, this is simply not the case in Australia.

Neither RalliArt Australia and/or Mitsubishi Australia can source them for you, while most of them are clueless to begin with. In fact, if you start to look at "alternatives" for replacement, you will find that there is nothing out there with the same level of performance or even close.

This isn't a problem just experienced by RalliArt Colt owners, but most LSEVS - Low Import / Official Channel makes and models sold in Australia from Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, right down to Mitsubishi. Where Japanese/European tyre manufacturers based in country either do not supply or have very minimal supply stocks for supporting the ownership base.

Tyre manufacturers are obligated to provide this supply as the ADR ruling on OEM tyres indicate that, "Light vehicle sold in country need to meet ADR compliance with original equipment". Hence, this technicality supports owners and forces compliance from tyre manufacturers.

What can you do as owners? Bring the problem to the attention of Yokohama, RalliArt and Mitsubishi Australia and get them off their feet to do something instead of nothing. We're not asking for free tyres, we are simply requesting for sustainable supply for our motoring needs. This isn't unfair or impossible to ask for, hence we should kick off an official campaign to get their attention.

If I have the support of the forum owners/administrators. We should compile a petition list of owners and their VIN/chassis numbers as identification that we are serious about the problem. It is a recognized concern and it needs to be addressed ASAP as the tyres continue to wear out day after day.

(1) Put a reply and follow this thread with your username.
(2) Supply your user name with your full name & VIN/chassis number by PM to the nominated forum owners/administrator.
(3) When the list reaches at least 50 genuine owners, I will work with the forum owners/administrators on directing this to the appropriate channels in Yokohama, RalliArt and Mitsubishi Australia.

List OF RColters that has already signed up
1) lovecolt
2) l2colt
3) Raymond6

[lovecolt]

Sounds good to me Noel. PM me about what others support you need from forum, i'm the forum owner here.

By the way, i don't even know if we have 50 RColt owners over here. Alot of the members are overseas.

[lovecolt]

Ok guys, if you are worried about your future replacement tyres, here is the chance to express our concern to Yokohama.

At the moment, there's yet to have any other manufacturer that can provide the same tyre profile 205/45/R16 that can also match up the ability of our AD07.

In times, here's the situation we will encounter:
1) Upgrade our rims to 17 or 18 inch with matching performance tyres
2) Spent a big deal of money by ourselves to organize import of AD07
3) Buy a replacement set of tyres from a inferior brand or model with a less profile. 205/45 is a very rare combination of tyre specs.

I can comfirm this is a legal petition for Noel is a known member off other forum.

[|2colt]

Yeh i put my name down...its pretty damn ridiculous that we get them as original tyres but cant get replacements.

[lovecolt]

Yeh i put my name down...its pretty damn ridiculous that we get them as original tyres but cant get replacements.

PM sent for the required info to participate this petition.

[Raymond6]

26/04/2007 15:07 Mark from Yokohama Tyres Australia stated that their is a 3month wait for these tyres to my tyre supplier as the post above have stated this may be a load of rubbish;

Now fella's it's time to put a hot rod up Mitz Australia they have let us down bigtime!!!!

Call the Ralliart Parts Manager Steven Bell on 1300 131 211 and ask him when they are going to have the tyres that they are supposed to have when the car was Australian Design Rule Certified:

Please post his replies here

If you require a tyre that will work 98% as well as the Yokohama Advan AD07 205/45 R16 you could try the Yokohama C Drive until our tyres become
Available (Ha Ha Ha I like our Chances)

[chefholliwood]

Sounds good to me Noel. PM me about what others support you need from forum, i'm the forum owner here.

By the way, i don't even know if we have 50 RColt owners over here. Alot of the members are overseas. well heres another able owner to stick it to em --we want our tyres:cool:

[lovecolt]

well heres another able owner to stick it to em --we want our tyres:cool:

So, i take that as a yes from you? Do you want to PM with the required details for the petition?

[white horse]

I was a bit worry about our factory tyres AD07 cant get replacement but i know there is a alternatives for the size we need , may be you guys heard this brand is called Federal 595RS ,it rated as a semi race tyre and road legal, yes, its taiwanese made tyres but trust me they got the grip ,i have used 595 on my last car( corolla sportivo ) which was 205/50/16 w rated ,before this i was using Toyo T1R, but 595 is better especially a lot stiffer tyre wall than the T1R, less body roll,grip may be similar,therefore
595 RS should be more grip ,will be my next tyre to put them on my colt R,i checked the price on the 595RS,its cost around $265 ea on 205/45/16 83W have a look this link:

http://www.federaltyre.com/

[lovecolt]

I guess if we can't get AD07, Federal semis will got to do then! But i do heard 595RS's pretty good.....although i'm not sure if i would like the $265 ea price tag though....

[Noel]

Raymond6 - Your response is a simple blanket. 3 months should be reducing making it 2 months and 1 week since my official engagement with Yokohama Australia.

Also, the problem isn't controlled by Mitsubishi Australia. This is a Yokohama Australia problem and isn't simply isolated to Mitsubishi. Without into going technical specifics, other tyre manufacturers have the same ongoing commotion with car makers in particular - Porsche, Lotus, Honda and Renault.

If you want to add your frustration to channel in a legal/positive direction of change, drop a PM to lovecolt on getting yourself onto this petition.

We may not have the numbers now, but with more owners coming on board and realizing they have no replacement alternatives. This will become a hot issue in due time.

[Noel]

white horse - Can you confirm the supply? And if, there needs to be more independent reviews indicating how good this tyre is. Insurance ruling also can dictate that using non-OEM or lesser quality tyres can significantly attribute and change the ruling legally for a disputed/rejected insurance claim for whatever purpose/reason.

[Noel]

Current Update - To remain in the same comparison pool as an ultra high performance road tyre. There is little choice and minimal selections available. European tyre makers don't make such small sizes because their markets simply don't cater for such a demand, and the Japanese market is limited heavily by running either one of the following;

Bridgestone Potenza RE55S (R Compound)
Yokohama Advan A048 (R Compound)

Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R (Ultra High Performance Road Tyre)
Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 (Ultra High Performance Road Tyre)
Dunlop Direzza DZ101 (Ultra High Performance Road Tyre)

Bridgestone - Parallel Importer / Supply Available * Price POA
Yokohama - Controlled Yokohama AU import * No Stock
Dunlop - Controlled Dunlop AU import * Stock Available

[d-Z1R3]

white horse - Can you confirm the supply? And if, there needs to be more independent reviews indicating how good this tyre is. Insurance ruling also can dictate that using non-OEM or lesser quality tyres can significantly attribute and change the ruling legally for a disputed/rejected insurance claim for whatever purpose/reason.



Are you sure about this mate? I know of a supplier that can get Bridgestone RE01R. The cost of these tyres are sky high. if you guys think that $265 for a tyre is expensive then maybe think again!

and if you think i am a bs artist, you can check out the supplier yourself

http://www.gccorp.com.au/automotive/index.php?cPath=45&osCsid=a5a5ed93f49b62664ea4adefaa372e04

these RE01R's are $300 per tyre. and this is on a 195/55R15 84V rated tyre.

So in comparision, the Yokies' will cost far more than the $265 per tyre that whitehorse has stated for the 595RS.

And if insurance have a reason to reject/dispute your insurance, then it should be like that for all cars. Unless stated in your policy you must use a specific tyre, then you have all rights to use any roadworthy tyre on your car. If you insurance does argue this point, you better find another company.

[white horse]

white horse - Can you confirm the supply? And if, there needs to be more independent reviews indicating how good this tyre is. Insurance ruling also can dictate that using non-OEM or lesser quality tyres can significantly attribute and change the ruling legally for a disputed/rejected insurance claim for whatever purpose/reason.

I can check that tomorrow but i am sure they have stocks but i am in Tasmania, i remember last year ( third quarter,cant remember which month ) wheel or motor magazine had a tyres test ,they have the Federal 595 RS on the test ,i have throw away that magazine,therefore cant exactly remember what it written but not too good in wet , it design for dry anyway.
I dont agree about you saying if not using OEM tyres may reject the insurance claim , if you replace a different tyres on your car,as long as have enough tread, i mean legal depth and same load rating as original tyres or higher,no matter what quality of tyres you choose,all tyres imported to Australia or manufacture in australia you can buy from tyres shop are legal, its more to do with your driving habit,
if you drive your car too fast or over speed limit on public road and crash it then you would more likely reject the insurance claim, even you have A048 on your car ,it still will lost control over its limit.

[lovecolt]

Are you sure about this mate? I know of a supplier that can get Bridgestone RE01R. The cost of these tyres are sky high. if you guys think that $265 for a tyre is expensive then maybe think again!

and if you think i am a bs artist, you can check out the supplier yourself

http://www.gccorp.com.au/automotive/index.php?cPath=45&osCsid=a5a5ed93f49b62664ea4adefaa372e04

these RE01R's are $300 per tyre. and this is on a 195/55R15 84V rated tyre.

So in comparision, the Yokies' will cost far more than the $265 per tyre that whitehorse has stated for the 595RS.

And if insurance have a reason to reject/dispute your insurance, then it should be like that for all cars. Unless stated in your policy you must use a specific tyre, then you have all rights to use any roadworthy tyre on your car. If you insurance does argue this point, you better find another company.


I can check that tomorrow but i am sure they have stocks but i am in Tasmania, i remember last year ( third quarter,cant remember which month ) wheel or motor magazine had a tyres test ,they have the Federal 595 RS on the test ,i have throw away that magazine,therefore cant exactly remember what it written but not too good in wet , it design for dry anyway.
I dont agree about you saying if not using OEM tyres may reject the insurance claim , if you replace a different tyres on your car,as long as have enough tread, i mean legal depth and same load rating as original tyres or higher,no matter what quality of tyres you choose,all tyres imported to Australia or manufacture in australia you can buy from tyres shop are legal, its more to do with your driving habit,
if you drive your car too fast or over speed limit on public road and crash it then you would more likely reject the insurance claim, even you have A048 on your car ,it still will lost control over its limit.


d1-Z1R3: I think you misunderstand what Noel means. This is what he quoted


Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R (Ultra High Performance Road Tyre)
Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 (Ultra High Performance Road Tyre)
Dunlop Direzza DZ101 (Ultra High Performance Road Tyre)

Bridgestone - Parallel Importer / Supply Available * Price POA
Yokohama - Controlled Yokohama AU import * No Stock
Dunlop - Controlled Dunlop AU import * Stock Available

d1-Z1R3 / whitehouse: What Noel meant, is that insurance company can debate on this if they are really anal. Obviously, this doesn't happen often.

But seriously, anything more than Federal's $265 each (1k++ for a set), is a rip off. Considered we can get a set of 16" Bridgestone RE55 under 1.4k, i don't see why a road tyre can cost almost the same as a semis.

my 2 cents anyway

[white horse]

d1-Z1R3 / whitehouse: What Noel meant, is that insurance company can debate on this if they are really anal. Obviously, this doesn't happen often.


I understand what he means but i have never heard this before,may be you right, but ........ i doubt it ! :rolleyes:


Yup! I doubt it too, but in theory its possible though.

[Noel]

d-Z1R3 - The OE AD07s costs approximately $350-$390 per tyre, Yokohama tyres are well known worldwide to be priced higher for a similar performance tyre by another manufacturer, their best competitor - Bridgestone. Don't ask me why, I don't dictate the pricing regulations.

While the RE-01Rs are also in the same ballpark, the answer for this is because 205/45/R16 is a very rare size and not manufactured as commonly like a 225/45/R17 for manufacturing volume comparisons sake. So when manufacturing quantity is lower, the price will clearly reflect to be higher. RE-01Rs are controlled by volume production when prices are being dictated regardless of parallel imported or grey imported.

white horse - Reiterating from lovecolt's comments. Insurance companies can dispute claims when assessment agents raise a flag. This isn't a common issue or problem, however definitely not unique or unjustified. The dispute can be raised on the following common grounds; (IE - Wrong tyre compound, non-ADR DOT approved, wrong speed/load rating, etc.) Once again, this is discretionary and subjective, not a blanket of order for panic.

If Federal has supply and has been reviewed by owners that have experienced first hand how it performs, that'd no doubt be priced as the most BFYB tyre available for this car, which would be excellent news. And of course, that's yet another option of choice considering not every owner buys their replacement simply dictated by cost.

Overall, if RalliArt Colt owners feel that paying the pinch for their OE tyres is a significant premium they wish to neglect, it's ultimately the owner's choice for selecting a cheaper tyre regardless of performance. I'm simply providing an avenue of choice vs. none. However, no supply from Yokohama Australia is not something to be ignored or pushed aside regardless of justifying their bottom line agenda.

[Raymond6]

Nick (Manager Parramatta Mitz) phoned me today he stated that The Ralliart Manager had been in contact with him and in light of the fact that we can not obtain AD07's at the moment and are unlikely to see them until the middle of next year.

Ralliart recommend Bridgestone ER 30 205/45 16 for the Ralliart Colt.

These are the standard tyres used on the Mazda MX5

Nick stated that he would join this forum and post this information personally.

Once we have this response posted a lot of the worries about insurance issues arising from non spec tyres will be alleviated.

Don't take my word for it. Wait till Nick or a another represtative from Mitz post a reply on this or the Ralliart Website prior to going out a purchasing these tyres as if anything happens they can always deny that they recommended anything.

[lovecolt]

Bridgestone ER 30??? What model is that? In anyway, i doubt MX5 stock tyres are anywhere near our AD07.

Actually, i'm not surprised that the AD07 will only be available from mid 08 as i heard Evo 10 comes with AD07. Hence, it makes more sense for them to bring in the tyres only when there's more demand than just RColt.

[d-Z1R3]

d-Z1R3 - The OE AD07s costs approximately $350-$390 per tyre, Yokohama tyres are well known worldwide to be priced higher for a similar performance tyre by another manufacturer, their best competitor - Bridgestone. Don't ask me why, I don't dictate the pricing regulations.

While the RE-01Rs are also in the same ballpark, the answer for this is because 205/45/R16 is a very rare size and not manufactured as commonly like a 225/45/R17 for manufacturing volume comparisons sake. So when manufacturing quantity is lower, the price will clearly reflect to be higher. RE-01Rs are controlled by volume production when prices are being dictated regardless of parallel imported or grey imported.

white horse - Reiterating from lovecolt's comments. Insurance companies can dispute claims when assessment agents raise a flag. This isn't a common issue or problem, however definitely not unique or unjustified. The dispute can be raised on the following common grounds; (IE - Wrong tyre compound, non-ADR DOT approved, wrong speed/load rating, etc.) Once again, this is discretionary and subjective, not a blanket of order for panic.

If Federal has supply and has been reviewed by owners that have experienced first hand how it performs, that'd no doubt be priced as the most BFYB tyre available for this car, which would be excellent news. And of course, that's yet another option of choice considering not every owner buys their replacement simply dictated by cost.

Overall, if RalliArt Colt owners feel that paying the pinch for their OE tyres is a significant premium they wish to neglect, it's ultimately the owner's choice for selecting a cheaper tyre regardless of performance. I'm simply providing an avenue of choice vs. none. However, no supply from Yokohama Australia is not something to be ignored or pushed aside regardless of justifying their bottom line agenda.

i don't doubt that you are wrong with the insurance part. i strongly think that yokahama have put you guys in a bad position.

i drive a pulsar myself, and the site which i stated in my last post is a site/company which is aimed at pulsars.

in our pulsar community it has been the same problem with finding a high grade performance tyre. the reason why this has accured is because of turbo conversions done to many pulsars around australia and finding a tyre which will handle the power is becoming problems for seriously modified cars.

hence why gccorp has gone to import the RE01's for the pulsar scene. i am sure if noel posted on the pulsar forums you will get great support from there too.

but as you said the yokies price will far exceed the price of the 595RS' this will be the disadvantage to many owners of the car as a set of these tyres will set you back a fair bit. hence owners will opt for a cheaper tyre.

i also agree with you that 205/45R16 tyres are hard to come by. as i previously had this size on my car. and now have gone back to a 15' rim because of the prices for high performance tyres.

[27AME]

Why would you doubt the MX5 has tyres as good as ours?

For starters, the MX5 is a great car, not to mention it's worth a fair bit more than ours. Secondly, it would seem you haven't driven one - very performance orientated vehicles and I'd bet it would give our colt a good run for its money around the track.

[Noel]

Raymond6 - Thanks for the follow-up. I'll really love to see some Mitsubishi AU representatives on the board. So they can be grilled for real answers instead of making up BS and giving rubbish alternatives.

Okay, what is an ER30? It's known officially as Bridgestone Turanza ER30. Now, Turanza is the passenger tyre category for Bridgestone aka normal road tyres while Potenza is the performance tyre category. To stick a Turanza in replacement or comparison to a Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 is literally sticking an insult to Yokohama. Bridgestone is good, but it's not that good. The comparison grip/performance/wear category of an AD07 is a Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R (http://potenza.jp/), the flagship performance tyre by Bridgestone exclusively JDM.

Now, tell me. Which tyre would you want to put on your car? I think the choice and decision is clear.

http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/tyre_pics/TURANZA_ER30.jpg vs. http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/yokohama/yo_advan_neova_ad07_ci2_l.jpg

BTW, the MX-5 is more of a cruiser convertible. No doubt it may have good handling but the characteristics build of the FR platform is engineered around balance and open sports concept vs. outright grip champion. The true performance MX-5 (Last seen in the Turbo SP spec) unfortunately don't use no silly Turanza spec tyres, they were spotting proper Potenza performance spec tyres instead. And no, comparing an FF performance car vs. an FR convertible is chalk and cheese. MX-5 has to worry about an S2000 more than a RalliArt Colt in short.

[lovecolt]

Why would you doubt the MX5 has tyres as good as ours?

For starters, the MX5 is a great car, not to mention it's worth a fair bit more than ours. Secondly, it would seem you haven't driven one - very performance orientated vehicles and I'd bet it would give our colt a good run for its money around the track.

Well, my statements' based on what Raymond6 said, where ER30's used on MX5. Hence they are definitely not as good as AD07.

Also, you will be surprised on what kind of tyres placed on those so called great cars, in order to reduce cost.

For your information, I did driven a mx5 before and even considered buying one. Hence i know exactly what it can do on track.

But then again, whatever track capability it has, it doesn't change the fact that not all the "Great" cars come stock with the top range tyres.

[Rdster]

If you want unbiased opinions on ultra performance tyres,give this Australian MX5 web site a try http://www.aus-cartalk.com, and click on 'Wheels & Suspension'. This site is for dedicated MX5 enthusiasts, who also track race their vehicles.They give you a good idea of what tyres are recommended for their application.
I am an ex second gen MX5 owner, and have just purchased a new Ralliart Colt, so this OEM tyre problem concerns me as well.

As you are all probably aware, all new cars that are released onto the Australian market, must by law have all parts available by the manufacturer, up to 7 years after the model is deleted from the range.
Does anybody have the Mitsubishi part number for the AD07 tyres?

If Mitsubishi does not conform to the law,with the unavailability of the tyres, then it is in breach of the agreement to supply parts.Maybe the next step is to get the ACCC involved?

By the way, the current generation MX5 has a lateral G of .96 on standard Michelins Pilot Preceda.As a comparison, the Evo IX has a lateral G of .91.The MX5 is definetely more than just the commented ' cruiser convertible '.

[27AME]

I lol'd at the cruiser convertible part too. MX5's may not be "that" powerful, but they are definitely a sports car, no questions asked!

[lovecolt]

Well, whether a MX5's a sports car, sporty car or just a plain convertible cruiser, its really a individual opinion. I don't see how that helps in this thread.

Good point from Rdster about the part number for the AD07. I will try to get it tommorrow when i go to my mitsu dealer for the compliance plate call back. If not, i will get our singapore RColt guys to find out for us.

[PML1]

Following a meeting 30/04/07 Ralliart Australia have recommended the Bridgestone ER30 as a replacement tyre for Raliart Colts. These tyres are readily available from Bridgstone. My question to Yokohama is why agree to suply a tyre for an imported vehicle and not import the tyre? Surely Yokohama could explain whats going on?

[Steve-B]

Anyone got a price and size of the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R that we can get in aus ?
they look pretty meaty.

[lovecolt]

Following a meeting 30/04/07 Ralliart Australia have recommended the Bridgestone ER30 as a replacement tyre for Raliart Colts. These tyres are readily available from Bridgstone. My question to Yokohama is why agree to suply a tyre for an imported vehicle and not import the tyre? Surely Yokohama could explain whats going on?

IMO, it got nothing to do with Yokohama. Remember this, its Mitsubishi Aus that wanted to bring to car in from Japan, not Yokohama. Hence, its really Mitsubishi's responsibility to change the tyres into something else before importing the car (if the tyres' not readily available in aus). Make sense?


Anyone got a price and size of the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R that we can get in aus ?
they look pretty meaty.

I think RE-01R will be at least around 350 - 400 per tyres range.

[27AME]

this is a good reason to upgrade to semi slicks if you ask me :P

[lovecolt]

Semi group buy :D

But then again, you will most likely need to change every 5000 - 10 000 km :(

Anyway, went to Mitsubishi in Northshore Sydney. They don't have a listings for our tyres. They advises that they normally don't have any listings for any tyres of any model. This is for the fact that they don't and never supply tyres. Also, they mention that by law, they don't have to provide identical tyres as its not part of mitsubishi.......just got the big feeling that we are all jacked by Mitsu Aus for this.

Therefore guys, pls join the petition. Some action from us, is better than no action yo!

[Raymond6]

Following a meeting 30/04/07 Ralliart Australia have recommended the Bridgestone ER30 as a replacement tyre for Raliart Colts. These tyres are readily available from Bridgstone. My question to Yokohama is why agree to suply a tyre for an imported vehicle and not import the tyre? Surely Yokohama could explain whats going on?

Can all the owners of Ralliart Colts have that in writing please as NRMA have stated to me that without this recomendation being in an official notification they may refuse a claim and in some cases it may invalidate my policy.

If NRMA have this policy im certain that other bodies providing insurance for Rcolts may well follow suit.

Without this gurantee our Rcolts become almost worthless, We look faward to a prompt reply from Mitz Australia.

[Raymond6]

Raymond6 - Thanks for the follow-up. I'll really love to see some Mitsubishi AU representatives on the board. So they can be grilled for real answers instead of making up BS and giving rubbish alternatives.

Okay, what is an ER30? It's known officially as Bridgestone Turanza ER30. Now, Turanza is the passenger tyre category for Bridgestone aka normal road tyres while Potenza is the performance tyre category. To stick a Turanza in replacement or comparison to a Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 is literally sticking an insult to Yokohama. Bridgestone is good, but it's not that good. The comparison grip/performance/wear category of an AD07 is a Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R (http://potenza.jp/), the flagship performance tyre by Bridgestone exclusively JDM.

Now, tell me. Which tyre would you want to put on your car? I think the choice and decision is clear.


http://www.bridgestone.com.au/tyres/products/car/tyre_pics/TURANZA_ER30.jpg vs. http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/yokohama/yo_advan_neova_ad07_ci2_l.jpg

BTW, the MX-5 is more of a cruiser convertible. No doubt it may have good handling but the characteristics build of the FR platform is engineered around balance and open sports concept vs. outright grip champion. The true performance MX-5 (Last seen in the Turbo SP spec) unfortunately don't use no silly Turanza spec tyres, they were spotting proper Potenza performance spec tyres instead. And no, comparing an FF performance car vs. an FR convertible is chalk and cheese. MX-5 has to worry about an S2000 more than a RalliArt Colt in short.


Im not a Mitz Australia Represtative Im Just a taking up the issue up with Mitz Australia on behalf of those members of this forum who can not get a the tyres that were fitted to our Rcolts.

[Raymond6]

:) According to some inside information Yokohama are going to airfreight out a limited number of Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 to there warehouse after pressure from members of this forum.

:D We should take our hats off to the Dealer principle of Parramatta Mitsubshi, Nick who took this matter up with his state Ralliart manager and did not take a backstep until he was able to provide not only the owners of Rcolts that have been purchased through Parramatta Mitsubshi but all Australian Rcolt owners the leval of service Mitsubshi promise in there advertising.

WELL DON
E NICK!

[hendo]

good work now i have to get some in S.A.

[lovecolt]

Thanks Nick for all the help.

[PML1]

News today 04/05/07 Yokohama are airfreighting a number of sets to Australia that will be here in about 3 days. I will be looking out for the where and when.

[Noel]

Raymond6 - I know you're not part of Mitsubishi Australia and/or their dealership. Your confirmation from NRMA also indicates the above notice I made about insurance coverage and their technicalities behind claims.

Overall, if it wasn't for your work with Mitsubishi Parramatta, Yokohama Australia may not have responded as quickly. It's good news and very good news for owners. I suggest owners who want a set to quickly acquire them and keep them in personal storage.

- Give Yokohama Australia a call to find out when and exactly the ETA is.
- Setup a purchase mode, because Yokohama Australia does not sell direct to public.
- Provide us a feedback on how many sets or numbers remaining if possible. I don't expect them to be filling up a plane full of 205/45/R16 AD07s. So this will eventually run out and return to the same story of - No supply for now BS.

[Raymond6]

Noel I see what I can do this week when I have a few spare miniutes.

[Steve-B]

yeah raymond, should we call nick @ parra mitsy to get a set of these for ourselves ?

[Raymond6]

yeah raymond, should we call nick @ parra mitsy to get a set of these for ourselves ?

Call Yokohama Australia if you have no luck call Steve Bell or Nick from Parramatta Mitz if you need S Bells phone number P message me.

[Steve-B]

can we grab yoko aus's number and nicks number off you please. Can pm me if you need to.
Cheers
Steve

[|2colt]

I have found this guy from the ozhonda site and it seems like he can get our tyres lol. This is what he has posted up. He said what he has posted are what he has in stock atm. This is a link but i think u have to register.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67310

Size:
195/55/15 $210 each
205/50/15 $225 each
205/45/16 $260 each
215/45/17 $300 each
225/45/17 $320 each
235/45/17 $335 each

The ADVAN Neova AD07 molds a "fine particle" Micro Silica (MS) tread compound (to provide greater road surface adhesion) into a directional tread pattern that features massive tread blocks with rounded edges to increase cornering stability and steering response while promoting more even wear. Five large circumferential and multiple directionally aligned lateral grooves resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction. The tire's structure includes two wide steel belts reinforced by spirally wound nylon to provide strength and uniform ride quality and high-speed capability while the sidewalls are tuned to resist lateral deflection providing handling control and cornering stability.

More info:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....N+Neova+ AD07

[Macca]

Can all the owners of Ralliart Colts have that in writing please as NRMA have stated to me that without this recomendation being in an official notification they may refuse a claim and in some cases it may invalidate my policy.

If NRMA have this policy im certain that other bodies providing insurance for Rcolts may well follow suit.

Without this gurantee our Rcolts become almost worthless, We look faward to a prompt reply from Mitz Australia.

This is rather strange, i highley doubt they will reject a you for tyres, unless the LOAD and SPEEDS catergories are too low.

I have a set of 15*6" tyres on my mirage on my nrms insurance policy and it stated on the policy i can use any size rim as long as it isnt wider than 6"

the general rule for bigger rims is 2" diameter and more importantley 1" wider than what is on the tyre plaque.

All cars NEED a tyre plaque and they state rim size load and speed rating i think.

[Raymond6]

As some of you may be aware there was a 10% discount offered by Yokahama Australia on the Batch of 20 they air freighted out to Australia last year as good will gesture to Ralliart Colt owners ONLY they did this for all the hastles we initially suffered with lack of supply of these tyres.

I just got of the phone to the state marketing manager and as of 4pm today no further discounts will be offered in any form!!! on AD07's.

Yokahama Australia have a stockpile of 150 AD07's so getting them is no longer an issue.

[Macca]

i just bought one mate $235 from blair tires, fitted ect.

[aby82]

well.. my precious has about worn out its first set of ad07's now and i'm getting a new set in the next couple of days.. almost a grand later *faints* lol

hopefully i'll get a few more k's out of this set

[Jusnippinout]

well.. my precious has about worn out its first set of ad07's now and i'm getting a new set in the next couple of days.. almost a grand later *faints* lol

hopefully i'll get a few more k's out of this set

How many Kms did you get out of the first set? Mine have done 10,000 and still look fine, though 80% of my driving is highway.

[lovecolt]

One can't really tell how much life is left in a tyre by just looking at its thread indictor. Quite often, the tyres might have already lost its grip well before the indictor shows. I have done near 18 000km and the thread indictor still shows good health....although its not gripping already :(.

[aby82]

lovecolt - i think its just u, ur used to the car and it doesn't feel as grippy as when u originally got the it.. i'll take ur tyres off ur hands for nothing and u can get a new set instead if u like?!?! lol

jusnippinout - its almost 30000 on the odo.. first 6000 it was a demo so probly had the shit thrashed out of it. had them rotated at about 15000 which was about 5000 too late and now i need new ones.. will def be lookin after this new set tho! :o

[Macca]

i just had mine rotated at 10,000, the wore quite a bit at first, i havnt slowed down but they seem to be waring less now.

Im getting new wheel bearings thou :P

[aby82]

yeh def need to get em rotated every 10000.. i was slack, but that won't happen again!

[McCoy]

EVO 9 should be rotated every 5,000km as they have a propensity to chew out the inside of the fronts., R-colts are similar. Personally if I owned a Ralliart colt (rather than drive one as a company car) I'd do the same thing as suggested with EVO 9 and rotate them every 5K.

[Flipper]

Macca,

Anyone else have wheel bearing problems? I have a funny sort-of rotating grinding sound coming from the front right. It gets lounder when I turn left at speed. I've been thinking it's probably the wheel bearing. What were your symptoms? Any trouble getting them replaced under warranty?

Thanks mate - Ken

[Corosith]

I get more of a brake type squeak under exactly the same conditions, Mitsubishi tech said it was because of the amount of play in the hub or something and said it was pretty normal. I really don't know who to trust on this matter, and have even considered a second opinion from a transmission/brake specialists to pinpoint what the cause is. There is another thread concerning all of these strange noises - see below!

http://www.rcolt.com/showthread.php?t=818