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Talibanana
04-12-2008, 10:39 AM
Hi All,
My name is Gerard, I'm picking up my colt tommrow.
Would you guys recommend the TMR boost mod?
Any other good cost effective mods that can be reccomended?
Panel Air filter replacement or pod filter?
bunnybash
04-12-2008, 08:58 PM
K & N panel filter from RPW is cheap and friggin awesome...
i would recommend waiting to see what happens with the ECU from RPW and Hot Auto.... RPW are doing some nice stuff for the Colt... check out their section...
Corosith
04-12-2008, 09:47 PM
If you want a good instant power gain for a relatively small outlay, but do not want to stuff your warranty, the TMR mod is pretty good - no complaints from any guys running this so far, or CEL issues ($550 from TMR Australia in VIC) Ralliart filter and a cat back exhaust can be run in conjuction to get the most out of the mod.
http://www.tmraustralia.com.au/article.php?ref=87
well...sorry to interrupt, but TMR mod will void your warranty, i found out this after we got the TMR mod, ofcause if you don't tell the dealer they wouldn't know, but is a yes that you will void your warranty,
i will suggest you do pill removal or yr advance solenoid, they are cheaper, but then got about the same power as TMR.
Talibanana
04-12-2008, 10:33 PM
Hi thanks all the replys, I was under the impression the mods done by TMR would not void warranty, or are you saying you are meant to inform your mitsubishi dealer prior to getting the mods performed?
banana
04-12-2008, 10:39 PM
If u do TMR ull have to fork out $550 that is not even dyno proven and ppl have no fukin idea what they did to the car lol and above terrance just mentioned that it still voids warranty.... wtf after they claimed it wouldnt.
another shyt thing about TMr is that its limited. now with warranty gone, y would u pay 550 when u can remove the pill and get same gains for free?
first thing i suggest is a yr solenoid which u can speak to ryan about it(lovecolt=moderator) i had it on for 4 months and no probs at all boostin to 1.2 bar compared to 0.7bar or 0.8 stock??. with the pill removal i find it somewut doggy and a few ppl had cell lights popping up. make sure u get a boost gauge (something i need to buy lol) so u can constantly check it.
then get a k&n filter, Ralliart filter doesnt void warranty? rofl no one checks lol
After market BOv is up to u lol. my mates ev0 8 and has the same plastic BOV. i dont understand y ppl are sayin stock BOV cant hold boost for a 154hp car when it can hold a 240kwatt jdm evo. funny enough when i gave that guy my turbosmart BOv, when taking the stock bov out it broke rofl~
then suggest getting a exhaust system, intercooler, suspension and hopefully an ECU flash.
oh ye dont get a Pod filter, it really sucks in low boost due to it sucking in hot air as its right next to the engine facing backwards, thats y i swapped and put back the stock airbox.
in the end all u need is money money money~!
Corosith
05-12-2008, 12:10 AM
I think to be fair I'd rather trust someone who is involved in top level mitsubishi based motorsport versus pulling the pill out and hoping your engine doesn't impload due to a big fuel lean out.
You rubbish the TMR mod, then recommend the "free pill" removal, then go on to discredit the "free pill removal" due to recent cel issues??? I'd be getting a air/fuel ratio gauge versus a boost gauge with that mod.
You also have to remember at time, the TMR mod was essentially the only power modification available and I can tell you it doesn't need to proving re the power output, it is like night & day compared to stock power and pulls similar if not the same boost levels as the YR Advance setup. Also do you think they would be stupid enough to release something onto the market if proper R&D were not completed first??
At the end of the day if it came down to a warranty claim, the dealer could knock all 3 mods back, but I know which one would survive a better chance regardless of what warranty claims have been made in the past!:rolleyes:
ommeh
05-12-2008, 12:53 AM
I think someone should clarify with TMR about the warranty. Cause it is an issue. Not just from TMR alone but also from a dealer. It shouldnt be He said this or he said that. IT MUST BE ON PAPER!
Also what banana said is right in a way. IF you are planning from bigger power then the TMR mod is just wasted money. Wait for a ECU flash as that's what will give you the most power. So with that in mind start modding your car to get ready for a ECU Flash like i personally have done. I'm getting a new cooler done, i've got a catback exhaust and waiting for RPW to finish the rest, waiting for RPW to finish the new manifold and i've got a Ralliart Filter. I believe with the ralliart filter it has to be installed by the dealer for it to be under warranty? This may be wrong but you need to research this with your local ralliart dealer.
On the other hand if you dont plan for big power and just want a little bit more oommffff then yes the TMR is the safest way to go as i beleive its TMR witch will honor the warranty not the dealer (Need proof) or you can get the solinode from YR-Advance or if you feel confident about it get the Actuator and pill mod done. THIS should only be done with a A/F meter. I have one and i do admit it is a bit more lean in the lower rev's (Still in optimum level) but very rich up high. This "getto" mod is not gonna stay forever as i plan to get a ECU reflash but i still wanted that oooommfff without having to use money that would be wasted in the long run.
Hope this clears something out. My 2c's worth anyways.
well, why i said TMR cheated on us is because on the day i got my TMR mod, i ask the guy if this is really warranty proof, he said, "Just don't say anything about this when you claim warranty" :eek: , which means they first tell us it's warranty proof or some one else on the forum said it, then all of us believes it, and the other thing is we don't even know what have been done to our car, i have dyno my car and only got 101kw at the wheel (after TMR Mod), maybe different dyno and temp on the day; but in reality is i do feel my car pull alot stronger then a stock one, but not as other people in this forum mention ages ago saying that after TMR mod they need to re adopt the car cause it's been producing too much power, which i think this statement it's a bit too extreme:rolleyes: but one thing true is after the TMR mod when raining in 2nd gear once i hit 4000rpm my wheel start spinning:)
banana
05-12-2008, 02:48 AM
from previous speculations i read that the TMR mod gained an extra 10 ~ 14kw @ wheel.?
http://www.rcolt.com/showthread.php?t=1536&page=8
just dont like the fact how they dont provide any infomation when ur forking out $550
in the end its all up to the individual i guess.
Corosith: apologizes if i said anything bad >,<;
Corosith
05-12-2008, 08:51 AM
No worries Banana, just don't like people panning a modification when they haven't had it done to their own car, especially when many guys are happy with the power that it produces - maybe just stick to personal accounts.:)
Edge, something must be wrong with your car because mine will light up the tyres in first & second gear in the dry (not that I would recommend doing that on public roads).
I have sent an email to TMR to try and clear a few things up, will be interesting to see the response.
Remember, we are here to offer Talibanana options, not to criticise other peoples modifications.:)
yea thats true, but im just not happy about TMR hiding the secrete of not telling us what have been done and fool us that their mods are warranty proof, thats why i feeling a bit angry after i did the mod, coz if it will void warranty, just tell us, or maybe tell us it will void warranty but it's really hard to see what have been change, but don't tell us they are link with Mitsubishi and will cover with Mitsubishi's warranty.
http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=287982
found this and tmr_colt have also commented as well, and it clearly says that TMR does not use Ralliart Parts, which means warranty void, i have also ask Jason is't all ralliart art parts won't void warranty, he said only Australia's ralliart parts will not void the warranty, anything from overseas will void, for examply a ralliart suspention and ralliart engine pipes.
im not saying that tmr is not a good mod, i did it and i love it, but i just dunt like the fact that they tell us is warranty proof but at the end they tell us not to mention this to mitsubishi:(
i know there is another EVO X and he is thinking of getting the TMR mod/upgrade, but his concern is TMR will void his EVO X's warranty.
Corosith
05-12-2008, 01:32 PM
Edge, it might be worth starting another thread on this discussion as we are getting a bit off the subject, which is power modifications, not warranty issues, Cheers!:)
(Talibanana always has the option of contacting TMR to make his own mind up on which way to go)
Talibanana
05-12-2008, 01:33 PM
I'm glad these matters are being dicussed. A few months ago after what I was told by a mitsubish dealer (won't say who), I'm not sure of his exact words but I was left with the impression modifications done at TMR would not void your warranty because they are a "offical Ralliart workshop".
"Official" modifications was a pretty good selling point to me. Not a deal breaker would've been nice if it was valid.
Thanks everyone for the lively discussion, for right now I think I'll just go with the K&N panel, mainly for the sound (cause I'm lame like that), and people on this board seem to be happy with it.
lol..sorry for being so off topic..yea i got K&N filter, it sound awesome, when i drive my friends they can all hear it and ask me is that nos...LOL..once again sorry for being off topic..><..
Edge, it might be worth starting another thread on this discussion as we are getting a bit off the subject, which is power modifications, not warranty issues, Cheers!:)
(Talibanana always has the option of contacting TMR to make his own mind up on which way to go)
haha..it's fine, don't really need any further discussion as we already got the mod..lol..but yea..thats what i've heard when i ask the TMR guy, he tell me not to mention the TMR mod to the dealer when we need to claim warranty, GM Gray heard that too he can prove it..:)
why_bother
05-12-2008, 06:10 PM
If u do TMR ull have to fork out $550 that is not even dyno proven
+10kw atw, +25nm, dyno proven.
To put this even more plainly +10kw atw is an 11% power increase from stock form (starting from the average '06 model power output of around 93kw atw).
banana
05-12-2008, 08:40 PM
+10kw atw, +25nm, dyno proven.
To put this even more plainly +10kw atw is an 11% power increase from stock form (starting from the average '06 model power output of around 93kw atw).
hmm my car was 98.7kw stock...
how did edge get 101kw with the tmr mod?
Spaceboy
05-12-2008, 08:54 PM
different dyno different day, cant compare.
regards the TMR mod, i would never pay $$$ to put anything on the car unless i knew what it was.
afaik nobody has confirmed if the pill was removed as part of it.
why_bother
05-12-2008, 08:58 PM
moved - too hard basket.
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/cgirl90/Charlie%20the%20Unicorn%202/CharlietheUnicorn9.jpg
all hail the bunana king!!
Spaceboy
05-12-2008, 09:08 PM
the mod is nearly (if not exactly) the same as the either the YR Advance Solenoid or pill restrictor removal (or a combination of the two). most people have the relatively small amount of grey matter dexterity required to work that out for themselves in stead of being selectivly ignorant.
i'll be the first to admit i'm a huge critic of things like this too mate, all you have to do is trawl back through any one of my posts saying 'where's the proof? where's the dyno sheet? what gain did you get?'. if you want to do the pill removal, do it. if you want to do the yr advance solenoid, do it. if you want to do the tmr mod, do it.. you're going to end up with extremely similar results.
i personally dont doubt TMR, or the power increases of the TMR mod,
but nobody including TMR has said what it is exactly, it might give the same results as a pill removal or solenoid, but nobody has proven it to be or not to be the same mod.
Talibanana
08-12-2008, 04:32 PM
how do TMR explain their boost mod to their customers?
do they say shhhh it's a secret
lovecolt
08-12-2008, 05:36 PM
how do TMR explain their boost mod to their customers?
do they say shhhh it's a secret
They don't. They only advise that its a drive in and out kinda mod.
welcome! good to see more and more melb rcolt owners. I reckon we should have another meet-up sometime soon
whereabouts in Melb are you?
Talibanana
10-12-2008, 09:12 PM
Endeavour Hills, are there many other rcolts in Melbourne?
A meet up would be good, so you guys can share some rcolt wisdom I'm pretty noob.
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