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lovecolt
16-07-2008, 11:41 AM
Not sure how many of you follows BEST MOTORING. But they have just released the August episode with a special factory tuned hot hatch battle.

The lineup includes:


Ralliart Colt Version R Special

1100kg
163ps/6000rpm
21.3kgm/3500
LSD
Ralliart Muffler
Extra 10% body strengthening

Monstor Sports Suzuki Swift Sport

1060kg
150ps (Super Charged)
Titanium Exhaust
Suspension (Coilover)
LSD
Upsized 17inch rims with new Bridgestone RE11
Many other mods which i don't know how to read japanese

HKS Honda Jazz/Fit

1010kg
180ps (Turbo Charged)
1.5 way LSD
HKS Exhaust
Upsized 16inch aftermarket rims with Advan AD07 204/45/R16
Many other mods which i don't know how to read japanese

TRD Toyota Yaris/Vitz

1060kg
150ps/6000rpm (Turbo Charged)
20.0kgm/4800rpm
maybe exhaust...???
Might have other mods which i don't know how to read japanese



Based on the amount of mods, the Swift & Jazz looks much more modded than the Colt & Yaris.

And the results.....??? Our Ralliart Colt wins from lap 1 till the end. For the first 3 laps, our colt lead by at least 5 car length. In the end, tsuchiya get bored of leading and slow down. But even then, the other's still too slow for the colt :D

Final lap time:

Colt - 1 min 11.119 secs
Jazz - 1 min 11.591 secs
Swift - 1 min 11.370 secs
Yaris - 1 min 14.988 secs


Tsuchiya also done a test drive in all 4 hot hatches and ended up giving 92/100 for our Colt. He gives his thumbs up for the Colt over any other car.

lovecolt
16-07-2008, 11:43 AM
Personal Comment: I'm very proud of our little rcolt. With only a LSD (the exhaust don't add any value to the output) and abit more body strengthening, it beats all heavily modded hatches. And if you think about it, since when is HKS or Monster Sport considered a factory tune???

RCOLT FTW :D

Steve-B
16-07-2008, 11:50 AM
GB LSD'S !!!
lol

Macca
16-07-2008, 12:17 PM
its all in our chassis and that LSD

Our chassis has been built from the factory up to provide a decent platform for a more powerful and better handling car.

Adding the LSD prvides the extra grip FWD needs out of the corners

I love our little car! I would lovean lsd thou, MAKE THEM STANDARD!lol

alba
16-07-2008, 02:04 PM
is this on dvd or does it come from the torrent community? i'd love to see it.

Re LSD:
they are just so damn expensive though
its a serious mod and i'm sure the results are there but i just cant get over that sort of money on something i cant see
i've never driven a FWD car with LSD

anyone have any experiences? reduce turn-in or increased torque steer?

lovecolt
16-07-2008, 02:32 PM
is this on dvd or does it come from the torrent community? i'd love to see it.

Re LSD:
they are just so damn expensive though
its a serious mod and i'm sure the results are there but i just cant get over that sort of money on something i cant see
i've never driven a FWD car with LSD

anyone have any experiences? reduce turn-in or increased torque steer?

its on dvd in japan, but i got mine online from torrent.

As far as i know, FWD with LSD will make turning circle bigger as both driving wheel's moving at same speed.

As for the expensive comment......i believe a set of rims cost more than the whole LSD upgrade and LSD is far more useful than a set of rims. So, if most people can justify the purchase of rims, i can't see why it can't apply for an LSD. ;)

alba
16-07-2008, 02:38 PM
i see your point sir :)

i'll move LSD up the list i think, still a few months away though, wan to make sure there are no warranty issues with gearbox etc first

Corosith
16-07-2008, 03:07 PM
Lovecolt - As for the expensive comment......i believe a set of rims cost more than the whole LSD upgrade and LSD is far more useful than a set of rims. So, if most people can justify the purchase of rims, i can't see why it can't apply for an LSD.

Took the words right out of my mouth!:D

As I have said many times previously, it just goes to show that handling really should take a priority over outright power, and this comparison proves that point. The other competitors may have been turbocharged & supercharged, but obviously their chassis's were not up to the task of getting power to the ground.

The Ralliart Colt is No.1!:p

ommeh
16-07-2008, 04:12 PM
Witch episode is it?? Please share :)

I wanna D/L This one!

lovecolt
16-07-2008, 04:20 PM
Not sure how many of you follows BEST MOTORING. But they have just released the August episode with a special factory tuned hot hatch battle.



Witch episode is it?? Please share :)

I wanna D/L This one!

There you go.

MIJ
16-07-2008, 04:21 PM
Nice video. I got it yesterday.:D

bunnybash
16-07-2008, 04:54 PM
where did you get the torrent from??

i did a quick search but couldn't find the needle in the haystack...

lovecolt
16-07-2008, 04:58 PM
Go www.isohunt.com and search for "Best Motoring"

bunnybash
16-07-2008, 11:00 PM
Go www.isohunt.com and search for "Best Motoring"

thanks mate...

ommeh
16-07-2008, 11:35 PM
D/L'ed it and MAN does the Rcolt FLY! Non of em had a chance lol.

|2colt
16-07-2008, 11:50 PM
If only I could understand Japanese...Naruto hasnt been helping me!

fauxpas
17-07-2008, 07:08 AM
tsuchiya had 3 sec on them into lap 3... he musta felt bored and kicked back and turned the radio on... :D

fauxpas
17-07-2008, 09:38 AM
lol... Just watched the whole thing without taking my eyes off the screen and tsuchiya zigzags down the main straight just to allow the others to sniff his exhaust...

absolute gold...

I wonder if tsuchiya could better 1:09...

alba
17-07-2008, 06:24 PM
noticed the colt lifting the rear inside a couple of times

had them all the way, straights or corners, none could touch it

why_bother
17-07-2008, 08:06 PM
good stuff, sounds like a good video.. honda jazz vtec turbo? sweet

fauxpas
17-07-2008, 08:12 PM
honda jazz vtec turbo? sweet

180PS in 1010KG... Still couldn't touch the rcolt... Did the same pace as the monster swift sport supercharged...

Spaceboy
17-07-2008, 09:10 PM
i think the brakei and the highu gripu taya were what gave the colt its edge.

lovecolt
17-07-2008, 09:35 PM
i think the brakei and the highu gripu taya were what gave the colt its edge.

You might want to read the specs of each car again. RColt don't have any advantage in the tyre or brake.

fauxpas
17-07-2008, 09:41 PM
For those who don't torrent, I'm uploading to youtube now as everyone seems to be concentrating on the R35 and not interested in the pockets of rockets... :D

Part 1/4

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Steve-B
17-07-2008, 10:14 PM
you are so awesome tony...dont ever leave me.

fauxpas
17-07-2008, 10:18 PM
What can I say, I got the colt love... But I don't love Tsuchiya's glitter shoes... Maybe Bridgie would like em?:o

ommeh
17-07-2008, 10:29 PM
lawl at hes shoes. I noticed that when i watched the torrent aswell.

Real good to see that our car has much potential :)

Darthrev
18-07-2008, 12:15 AM
why was the Colt driver zig zaggin all over on the straights..... seemed he wanted the other cars to keep close to him? if he had driven serious all the way he prol would have been like 15 seconds plus in front of em at the finish??? crazy Japanese!

Corosith
18-07-2008, 01:34 AM
Thanks for that fauxpas, I was hoping someone would post the race!:) I think the LSD made a big difference compared to the last hatch race. The Vitz was a bit like the previouslty featured rcolt - couldn't get the power to the ground out of the corners. Gotta love that supercharger whine from the swift - very tasty!:D

bunnybash
18-07-2008, 01:34 AM
i think he was laughing and bored... the colt was that far in front!! i think he was taunting the other cars... the score he gives the colt is so much higher than the other cars too...

fauxpas
18-07-2008, 06:56 AM
why was the Colt driver zig zaggin all over on the straights..... seemed he wanted the other cars to keep close to him?

Yeah, the legendary Keiichi Tscuchiya... I don't speak Japanese but I think he refers to his zigzagging when issuing the point out... Certainly for fun...


Thanks for that fauxpas, I was hoping someone would post the race!:) :D

Cheers man...

Julz
20-07-2008, 12:50 AM
hahaha those other cars got owned big time!

bunnybash
20-07-2008, 03:01 AM
RColt wins!

But before getting too excited does no one notice that the rcolt gets the third fastest lap time when driven by the same driver (tsuchiya). This is the most objective test of it's pace? The race has all different drivers. Although Tsuchiya does still rate it best!

Jazz quickest with 1.11.031
Echo number 2 with 1.11.067
Colt number 3 with1.11.119

Although I could be misunderstanding, seeing as how my japanese is a bit rusty

BTW Bunnybash did not log off, and left his account logged on my computer. ;)

lovecolt
20-07-2008, 03:07 AM
The second round where Tsuchiya test driven all 4 cars, is meant to be a......test drive ;) Hence, its not a time attack type.

The Kakeyoro in Best Motoring, is never meant to be a time attack. The whole purpose is to test drive in a spirited way and let tsuchiya comment on the pros & cons of each car.

bunnybash
20-07-2008, 03:15 AM
ahhh thanks for clearing that up... i must take japanese lessons if i am to own a japanese car!

bunnybash
20-07-2008, 03:28 AM
The second round where Tsuchiya test driven all 4 cars, is meant to be a......test drive ;) Hence, its not a time attack type.

The Kakeyoro in Best Motoring, is never meant to be a time attack. The whole purpose is to test drive in a spirited way and let tsuchiya comment on the pros & cons of each car.


That makes it worse!!!! The Swift whilst being driven in a "test drive" sets a better lap time than the rcolt can do in the race?!!? As does the Jazz. So in "spirited" driving the jazz and swift are both faster than a "racing" rcolt? Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.

-NOT written by bunnybash

lovecolt
20-07-2008, 06:10 AM
That makes it worse!!!! The Swift whilst being driven in a "test drive" sets a better lap time than the rcolt can do in the race?!!? As does the Jazz. So in "spirited" driving the jazz and swift are both faster than a "racing" rcolt? Please correct me if I am getting this wrong.

-NOT written by bunnybash

So, its written by....????

Anyway, if you understand the meaning of test drive, then you will understand the time obtained. ;)

adamtassell
20-07-2008, 10:58 AM
So, its written by....????

Anyway, if you understand the meaning of test drive, then you will understand the time obtained. ;)

So test drive means fastest possible lap. Seeing as how the fastest laps were all posted in the "test drive"

Which explains why the Rcolt gets exactly the same lap time for the race as for the test drive (same driver for both parts of the video) whilst the other cars all improve with tsuchiya driving.

In which case the Rcolt still posts the third fastest time for the video. AND is the overall winner.

fauxpas
20-07-2008, 11:42 AM
At the end of every lap, tsuchiya stops and makes a cup of coffee, or should that be a sake?

Spaceboy
20-07-2008, 12:31 PM
the colt ralliart version R isnt the fastest, but its so close as to make no difference.

adamtassell
20-07-2008, 12:32 PM
the colt ralliart version R isnt the fastest, but its so close as to make no difference.

And tsuchiya rates it as the best anyway. And it is available to buy here in aus as it is presented in the vid. It is not an "aftermarket" vehicle. I would love to know what it would cost to build that Jazz from a stock VTi jazz- aepecially since the rcolt still wins the comparison

ommeh
20-07-2008, 12:47 PM
for the Jazz, just buy the HKS Bolt on turbo kit for the Jazz and some HKS Compact coilovers and you got pretty much that car in the video.

From my memory you Cant get the Version R Special (The blue one in the video) in australia. You can build one but it would be expensive (New LSD, Body braces etc)

Colt FTW!

adamtassell
20-07-2008, 01:13 PM
for the Jazz, just buy the HKS Bolt on turbo kit for the Jazz and some HKS Compact coilovers and you got pretty much that car in the video.

From my memory you Cant get the Version R Special (The blue one in the video) in australia. You can build one but it would be expensive (New LSD, Body braces etc)

Colt FTW!

The Jazz also has a 1.5LSD, rims and tyres. I bet you would get no change from 10k, and probably more like 13k to make a car identical to the one in the video, including crap like those guages. Plus the purchase price of the car.

"Check out the prototype HKS turbo kit for the CBA-GD3 (uh, Honda's Fit and Jazz). The base kit puts out 153hp and includes a T25 turbine, F-CON iS, Super Power Flow Reloaded intake, exhaust manifold, piping, hose and hardware. A Step Up kit adds an intercooler, injectors, oil cooler, muffler and boost meter all good for another 23 little ponies"

Corosith
20-07-2008, 01:47 PM
With a compression ratio of 10.4:1, I wouldn't want to boost the jazz/fit up too much, I reckon the longevity of the engine would be compromised! The rcolt runs about 9.0:1 with a triple layer metal head gasket, oil jet to keep the pistons cool and strengthened pistons specifically suited for turbocharging. The rcolt is definitely the cheaper option, and not to mention road legal as well. It would be cheaper to add some chassis bracing, buy the LSD and get the TMR mod to end up with a colt that will rival if not surpass the "Special model"

Sure you can buy the HKS turbo kit for the jazz, but it will not be road legal (if not properly engineered), and it will cost a fair bit more than $10000 for all of those add-ons due to fitting/labour/tuning costs.:)

ommeh
20-07-2008, 03:16 PM
IF i was to ever buy a Jazz (And i do mean IF) and i was to put that kinda money into it. My path would be Type R Brakes on HKS coilovers and a K20A transplant. It may work out more expensive but hell its a K20A :p

Out of all those cars we got to remember Ralliart is Mistusbishi etc. Its a Factory tuned car. Monster and HKS are stand alone companies. TRD's Vitz.... FAIL lol!

adamtassell
20-07-2008, 03:28 PM
IF i was to ever buy a Jazz (And i do mean IF) and i was to put that kinda money into it. My path would be Type R Brakes on HKS coilovers and a K20A transplant. It may work out more expensive but hell its a K20A :p

Out of all those cars we got to remember Ralliart is Mistusbishi etc. Its a Factory tuned car. Monster and HKS are stand alone companies. TRD's Vitz.... FAIL lol!

It is hard to understand that the swift is not quicker. I would think with all that modification it that it would be the winner by miles.
The TuRD Epic fail!