Clutch worries

[Chipokae]

Hello all, I've just had my first REAL problem with the Rcolt. When i've been driving for some time (over 50kms in one trip) the clutch seems to make this squeek at the friction point from stand still. I've called ralliart and the dealer and they've only asked me to bring the car in. I can readily reproduce the noise and its really starting to get on my nerves. Anybody have any idea what this may be or the cause? Any advice would be appreciated.

[lovecolt]

I think i know which noise you are talking about. Is it when you are in neutral gear, try to press / release the clutch and will have a noise when the pedal go pass the friction point??? If yes, i have the same thing. Doesn't really bother me as i rarely do the clutch act in neutral gear anyway.

[27AME]

I think i know which noise you are talking about. Is it when you are in neutral gear, try to press / release the clutch and will have a noise when the pedal go pass the friction point??? If yes, i have the same thing. Doesn't really bother me as i rarely do the clutch act in neutral gear anyway.

Anyone else get a strange sound from the gearbox when changing from 1st to 2nd at about 4000 - 5000rpm?

Sort of like a clunking sound.

[lovecolt]

Anyone else get a strange sound from the gearbox when changing from 1st to 2nd at about 4000 - 5000rpm?

Sort of like a clunking sound.


I don't believe i ever heard a strange sound at 1 -> 2 gear at 4 - 5000rpm. Plus, its really hard when all the exhaust and mivec sounds going inside out of the car.

[AzRcolt]

I do notice on my car that when in neutral and the clutch is in play there is a rolling noise comming from it. however it goes away when u depress it.

my 1500km service is comming up so ill get them to look at it. i also notice that there is a noticable click feedback when the cluck play is engaged in the first 2 gears.

as for getting a clunk from changing from 1st to 2nd, i sometimes get it, but only when the engine is cold in the morning.

[Steve-B]

Hey Chip,
i am starting to get that noise to, when the friction point in first taking off, or when you reverse with the friction point.
I cant replicate mine either, but it would have to be a bearing or spring relating to the clutch operation.
Az,
dont expect mitsy to care when you tell them, my thrust bearing were making weird noises and i told them on my first service, they told me it was normal and had no interest in pulling it apart to check it.

[aby82]

hey people, yes mine makes the same noise when slowly taking off from stand still and its been doing almost since i've had the car..

i've discovered it only happens when u don't release the clutch in one smooth movement - i.e. say if u release the clutch half way and then slowly release the remainder it causes the car to make that highly irritating sqeaky noise that you're talking about!

i'm not sure if my explanation is completely understandable, but the solution is to release the clutch in one smooth motion and it won't make the noise.

[Raymond6]

My Little Urchin has started to devolop this noise as well intially when this subject was brought up on this forum I sujested that it was the thrust race.

It is a mechanical creaking sounding noise, when I press the clutch down it sounds to me like a combination of the springs that hold the thrust race onto the actuator leaver complaining due to a lack of lubrication and the Clutch pressure plate's finger in the centre creaking.

I've had this noise before and it's nothing to worrie about it's just a little anoying and there is nothing you can do to fix it except for purchasing and fitting a differant clutch pressure plate.

[Geo_x]

We have the same problem here in Greece! At the beginning the local dealers were replacing the clutch pump (the problem was a small piston that it has inside, i think), but now Mitsu Greece, Mitsu Europe, i don't remember, has release a statement that thats the way it suppose to work! :eek:

I have the "problem" for a few thousand km now, but all seems to be working fine. I notice that the sound starts after a long distance trips...

[Steve-B]

Yeah i agree with you aby,
I only ever hear the noise when my girlfriend drops me @ the station. lol. Its called a handbrake baby, blah blah blah....so i gave up. She can pay for the new clutch. lol.

[Steve-B]

ok, my noise is getting more frequent and louder.

[Chipokae]

this may sound sad but could it be possible that all of us just cant drive our cars? :rolleyes: or is there something wrong with our cars? if so, it seems we may be able to bring this issue to mitsubishi.

[lovecolt]

Its already been brought upon to Steve Bell. He is looking into this issue.

[Raymond6]

I sat down with Steve Bell last Saturday at the Dutton Rally at Eastern creek and we spent about 30 mins discussing this matter. Lovecolt and I both let him listen to the noise coming from the gearbox at idle above the NSF wheel.
The noise appeared to disappear when the clutch was depressed this was the same for both cars. He seemed very concerned and said that he would have a look at Molly’s racing Rcolt Pressure Plate and Clutch plate to see if he could detect any abnormalities.

He will also keep a close watch on all warranty claims in respect to this matter and if a trend is developing ensure that the parts are readily advaidible for dealers to carry out the required modifications or repairs.

We sat down and had close look at the clutch assay as seen below and came to the non professional view that the Thrust Race should not be in contact with the Clutch Pressure plate so it should not make any noise. (However this is what appears to be happening)

From my personnel experience this is a trait of Sachs clutches and the thrust race can fail at anything after 40,000kms but normally around the 80,000 to 110,000km point so it remains to be seen what happens. We can be comforted by the fact that we have an extensive warranty on this component according to S Bell.

See the diagram below.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z11/einstein99/2006RCRalliartColtClutchAssy.jpg

[Chipokae]

lovecolt and raymond6, i dont think you guys are not talking about the same noise as we are. we are talking about a squeeky noise when we take off from standstill. you guys are talking about the constant whirring noise when the clutch pedal is not depressed.
but its good to know that you guys are looking into the whirring noise, i've kind of gotten used to it.

[Steve-B]

yeah same point as chipo,
the thrust bearing noise at stand still ive had since new, but only recently when taking off in first and reversing, pivoting on the clutch, there is a defiantly a clicking, metal rubbing metal "abnormal" noise. I realise what componets are used in a clutch setup, but the noise isnt a normal one.

[|2colt]

I have both crap noises.....badluck for me:(
Ive taken the car to mitsubishi so many times but they say they hear nothing...are they deaf or just trying to play me. Hopefully Steve can come back with an answer.

[Chipokae]

l2colt, at least they've told you they cant hear it :) im only been told that

"yeah we'll have a look at it, but if its a problem that warrantee doesnt cover then we'll have to charge you $920 to take the clutch out to have a look at it.... then we'll have to charge you for reassembly" (ontop of 900 bucks for looking at something?!)

this, in my opinion is bullshit, i for one, cannot take the "GAMBLE" that i may have to fork out 2 grand for them to "have a look to see if its a warrantee issue". why should my warrantee be a "GAMBLE"?!
im really dissappointed in mitsubishi for what i've been told by the so called "service center" and the (lack of) "service" that they have provided (or in this case, what they havent provided).

i'll definitely have to add this to one of the reasons why RColt sales have been shit. their lack of after sales service.

[Steve-B]

mate that just sounds like a lazy ass service centre you have there. We have like a 5 or 10 year warranty on the drive line on these cars. They are trying to scare you off them having to work on your car. Get the guys name and the centre and ask raymond6 for steve bells number, and give him a call and let HIM know whats happened and what he suggests to do. Dont take that shit from them dude.

[|2colt]

I think the best thing is for all of us that own the Rcolt is to do is document what we think is a problem and write in. If it is happening to one car they dont really care but if there are alot of cars which may have a defect in the manufacturing of the clutch or assembly they have to answer our queries.

[glennoechc]

got the same problem,seems to be getting worse as the months go on or the longer the drive the more frequent the noise!!!! took it to mits service and said there is nothing wrong,its just wearing in they clamied!!!!!!

[glennoechc]

how about putting a bunch of signatures together or something all complaining about the clutch worry and send it to mitsubishi aus or something?

[lovecolt]

I think i finally know what you guys are talking about. Will follow up with Steve Bell to check if he has any progress on the clutch issue.

[Chipokae]

im kinda glad that im not the only person suffering this problem :rolleyes: . thank you lovecolt for following up on this problem. if we need to get something in writing or sign something, let me know as i would be MORE than happy to be the first on the list with issues.

[Chipokae]

yeah same point as chipo,
the thrust bearing noise at stand still ive had since new, but only recently when taking off in first and reversing, pivoting on the clutch, there is a defiantly a clicking, metal rubbing metal "abnormal" noise. I realise what componets are used in a clutch setup, but the noise isnt a normal one.

steve-b, im glad that you've brought the clicking noise up as well, i didnt realise that you'd mentioned it before but i had that clicking noise from day 1. i brought it up to the dealer and he referred me to the workshop who told me it was ''normal'' and when i brought it in for my 5000km service they guy went for a drive with me, heard the noise, and then told me it was normal too. i just took their word for it. silly me.
the clicking noise has since subsided but i still get it every now and then.

[Pete]

dads car had the clicking when starting in 1st or reverse, its the splines, mitsy said they get hot so need to check the lubricant on them, his were fixed when serviced

[lovecolt]

Just got off the phone with Steve Bell, he has been busy lately. He has spoken to the Getrag gearbox manufacturer in Euro and they suggest its whining bearing noise is a characteristic of the gearbox itself. However, he already had Molly Taylor's RColt's clutch at the back of his car at the moment. He will need to get it looked at by the clutch pros to determine if its has un-natural wears. The issue that Chipokae mentioned "Might" all be related. What he will need to do now, is to solve the puzzle one by one.

I will keep in touch with Steve to keep track of the progress ;)

[Toker]

nice, good info lovecolt.. this is something that seems prevalent on the euro turbos as well (as has been mentioned) so i'd be interested to see what your man has to say on the matter.. whether or not it is actual parts fatigue or apparent 'normal' noises!
Lets hope the latter or mitsu is going to have a bit of a large bill to sort everyones car out.. I know a lot of people have this noise.....

[|2colt]

Finally the boys at the dealership found the sqeaky clutch noise was due to the incorrect position of the forks of the clutch. They fixed that and i took one of the mechanics for a test drive so they could hear the other annoying noise. Its a click or clicking sound i get when i take off or change to 2nd. They say they need to replace the driveshaft. They have had my car for 4 days....starting to miss it now. Maybe these problems might help diagnose the nosie from other colts.

[27AME]

Finally the boys at the dealership found the sqeaky clutch noise was due to the incorrect position of the forks of the clutch. They fixed that and i took one of the mechanics for a test drive so they could hear the other annoying noise. Its a click or clicking sound i get when i take off or change to 2nd. They say they need to replace the driveshaft. They have had my car for 4 days....starting to miss it now. Maybe these problems might help diagnose the nosie from other colts.

You need to make Steve Bell aware of this.

The clicking noise... Was it as you accelerated and it sort of goes click... click, then you change gear? I had that but didn't think anything of it.

I definitely have the clutch squeak!

[|2colt]

Yupp that the clicking noise i get. It seems to be coming from the right hand side. Looks like you may need to get a new drive shaft and your forks realigned. Should be a quick fix for you since it took a while for the guys to diagnose the problem.

Does Steve Bell come on this forum? If so i give him a pm..Or one of the boys that speak to him might want to let him know about the issue.

[|2colt]

Just got the car back....the sound is gone but they mechanic said after replacing the rh driveshaft a noise could be heard on the left hand side. 2 day wait for parts from Syd. Car goes back in on Tuesday. 10 more days to the 1 yr anniversary of my Colt. Hopefully next year will be be a better year:)

[Jason.rcolt]

i got the same problem too... but the click.. click..click noise only in 2nd gear and speed at around 30 - 50 km + i just replaced a brand new gear box today... and i found the click problem will take it back to dealer see what they say!!

[radiostar69]

i have a clicking noise that becomes apparent around 3000rpm thru to 5000rpm...is this what everyones talking bout? or am i on a completely different page?

[lovecolt]

I think its on a different page. Most of us only have bearing rolling sound if you put your ear beside the passenger side front wheel and the squeaking noise when you release the clutch.

[radiostar69]

I wonder what im hearing then...anyone else hear the noise that i hear? Ive heard a similar sound in my friends NA Silvia when you approach the rev limiter...

[Corosith]

As Murray Walker would say - If I'm not mistaken, sounds like it might be your CV joints clicking! I think it all depends on how much you use & abuse your car (ie burnouts, high load gear changes), as I use to own a swift Gti and never had any CV, clutch or gear problems and used to drive it hard at circuit sprints/hillclimbs, but yet a lot of guys seemed to be blowing second gear all of the time, mainly due to over abuse of their driveline. Just a thought - not acusing you or anyone else of any misuse!:) Anyone else with any thoughts on this?

[ColtVerR]

hi..

afew of us from singapore driving the manual tranny also experienced the squeaky sound during move off...however, as ours are imported models, we couldnt go to mitsubishi local agent to lodge feedbacks...however, I heard of 1 case whereby the local importer actually swapped a new gearbox...anyway, thumbs up for lovecolt n steve bell for doing up a good job of following up for the CVR community...

[Macca]

As Murray Walker would say - If I'm not mistaken, sounds like it might be your CV joints clicking! I think it all depends on how much you use & abuse your car (ie burnouts, high load gear changes), as I use to own a swift Gti and never had any CV, clutch or gear problems and used to drive it hard at circuit sprints/hillclimbs, but yet a lot of guys seemed to be blowing second gear all of the time, mainly due to over abuse of their driveline. Just a thought - not acusing you or anyone else of any misuse!:) Anyone else with any thoughts on this?


10 year 160,000km warrenty FTW!

[fuse01]

well me too expericing some funny sound from the clutch.
sounded like dragging brakes to me.. or a hollow big pipe howling sound.

dead stop, stick in 1st gear half clutch and slowly gas it. the howing sound will start. scary manz...

everytime i'm stuck in a jam or stopping up a slope and moving off i get the strage howl.

steering hydralic issue? nar my wheels are straight
brakes dragging? i tried even at slow speed 5/10 km/h it still howls.

clutch? i really dont know....

you guys having the same issue?:(

[efti]

well me too expericing some funny sound from the clutch.
sounded like dragging brakes to me.. or a hollow big pipe howling sound.

dead stop, stick in 1st gear half clutch and slowly gas it. the howing sound will start. scary manz...

everytime i'm stuck in a jam or stopping up a slope and moving off i get the strage howl.

steering hydralic issue? nar my wheels are straight
brakes dragging? i tried even at slow speed 5/10 km/h it still howls.

clutch? i really dont know....

you guys having the same issue?:(


I got the same thing man, its a shit sound...taking it in for 15k service, they better fix it or all hells goin to break loose....new cars shouldnt make that noise, in adition to clickin noises from the clutch too

and by the way i havnt given my car a hard time either

[gaz]

G,day guys.My names Gaz from over here in the Wild West.I,ve been a bit of a silent member of your great site for a while now.I think Im a bit older than most of you by the sounds of it,but the love of fast cars bonds us all in one way or the other.
Thing is guys Im so close to buying an Rcolt its just not funny,I was lucky enough for my local dealer to loan me one for a few hours last week,great little car and I drove the sh-t out of it.BUT with the greatest of respect to all the members here Im having real doubts about it after reading about this clutch/gearbox problem that the Rcolt seems to have.
Im not a mechanic but Im in the same industry(different Trade) as Macca so when it comes to mechanical things I have a fair idea,also over the past few decades I,ve had my share of Hot Hatches in the UK.So basically whats the opinion of most of you guys(I know you all love the Rcolt,so please try to be objective)are these GREAT little cars,going to brake the hearts of owners with persistent problems over the next few years? I really have little faith in the warranty,Although Im on my $th Mitsi in 7 years !!

[Corosith]

All I can say is don't just rely on the manufacturer to check the problem, go and see a gearbox/clutch specialist to check the noises (usually will do this for free) and get a second opinion, at least then you have some ammunition for when you approach mitsubishi RE a warranty claim, and they won't be able to fob you off!:rolleyes:

[gaz]

Thing is mate Im just on the edge of buying one and all this talk of clutch problems is putting me off.Shame I really like the car.Dont know to buy or not.

[Corosith]

Maybe we should do a bit of a roll call and get everyone to post their current number of kilometres, and any issues/noises/squeaks etc, that have arisen in that time. I'm just coming up to 4000kms with no problems so far, have pushed the colt fairly hard in that time too. The Euro CZT guys could also have valuable input into this as they have had their vehicles probably longer than us, and with more on the road.

Gaz with regards to your purchase, I think you will find just about everycar these days will have some sort of gremlins crop up from time to time (yes, even new cars), whether it be a holden, toyota or mitsubishi, the fact is, if there is a widespread problem with the drivetrain then mitsubishi will have no choice but to fix the problem under warranty or do a recall to fix any outstanding issues on all rcolts. I heard about some of these issues before I made my purchase, but still went on with the purchase as I still believe this vehicle is still the one that best suits my criteria.:)

[aby82]

i've done just around 25000k's now and everythings still going strong.. good service with mitsubishi, and good experience with mitsubishi so far. my rcolt does make this noise, but not very often.. which doesn't really bother me too much.

the cars built for a purpose - to kick arse! and it does it very well.. the clutch is a heavy duty, and would you even call it racing clutch? so its strong, and if it makes a slight noise from time to time, then for me, its not really that big of an issue.

[gaz]

Thanks guys for taking the time to reply,I,ll take it all onboard and make up my mind in the next week or so.

[fuse01]

iam on 11k km this like the 7 months into my ride. Still love it very much.

[Macca]

OK

First answer, Its not going to me a hydrilic steering problems as the powersteering is ALL ELECTRIC in the colt. (The box in the front passenger footwell is inface the power steering ECU)

Yes its a neavy duty clutch and gearbox, Pritty much all colts have the basic Engage and disengage CLUNK/CLICK noise, but as i know most of us havnt got any creeking or moaning or squeeking during engage or disengage (that noise is a dry or work thrust bearing).

One member here does have mitsubishi looking thru the problems, but i think steve bell should come have a look at this thred, and start solving the sorce of these noises.

These clutch problems SHOULD NOT put off any people from buying an R Colt, they are not major clutch failers, but just minor noise issues, which more than likly be put down to being heavy duty items.

FUSE01, you should be taking your car and demostrating that noise to your local service manager, as it really doesnt sound too well,, and is more than likly an isolated incident.


And my cars info, 5000kms and has got the engage and disengage clunk noise, and no other problems.

SOrry if half of this may have sounded strange, ask away its early as, and while you guys have been sleeping i have been working :P its bed time

MACCA OUT!

[lovecolt]

G,day guys.My names Gaz from over here in the Wild West.I,ve been a bit of a silent member of your great site for a while now.I think Im a bit older than most of you by the sounds of it,but the love of fast cars bonds us all in one way or the other.
Thing is guys Im so close to buying an Rcolt its just not funny,I was lucky enough for my local dealer to loan me one for a few hours last week,great little car and I drove the sh-t out of it.BUT with the greatest of respect to all the members here Im having real doubts about it after reading about this clutch/gearbox problem that the Rcolt seems to have.
Im not a mechanic but Im in the same industry(different Trade) as Macca so when it comes to mechanical things I have a fair idea,also over the past few decades I,ve had my share of Hot Hatches in the UK.So basically whats the opinion of most of you guys(I know you all love the Rcolt,so please try to be objective)are these GREAT little cars,going to brake the hearts of owners with persistent problems over the next few years? I really have little faith in the warranty,Although Im on my $th Mitsi in 7 years !!

First of all, welcome Gaz. Age means nothing in the world of cars :D Most of the members here are 30 anyway, so not much childs talk around.

Happy to see another lover for the RColt. As for biased / subjective opinion on RColt, i doubt it will happen much over here as most of us came from a ex-sports car background and we most certainly aware of what the car can and can't do.

For the clutch/gearbox issue, personally i don't worry too much as we are all covered by the 5/10 warranty. Besides, all i got is, irriatating noise that doesn't affect the performance. But to be honest, if there's a aftermarket clutch avaliable for the gearbox, i will change it straight away. Its not because of the noise it make, but how bad the stock clutch is. Its engagement distance's short and yet the clutch ain't gripping.

But hopefully, we can hear the good news from you soon ;)

[Steve-B]

Hey Gaz,
Mate i would agree with macca, and not so much lovecolt. lol. The clutch works 100% and 100% of the time. For the power and dynamics that mitsy were going for they have nailed it with this setup. But alot of insider mitsy ppl say that the getrag box is noisey, and clunky. It doesnt hinder performance, and with such a large warranty I have no doubt that if a "problem" was found that they will rectify it. A small squeck or clunk isnt really worth mitsy pulling apart a box or clutch to find its like macca said due to the performance type setups we have. It is an annoying noise, but thats all really. You think the colt was fun, put an aftermarket filter in there, it really comes alive on boost !

[DAC]

RColt with 2500kms travelled.

The clutch is noisy & clunky but I don't find that it slips or that the noise affects performance. Any clutch noisy is only slight in my RColt.

Sometimes when you put together a drive train from 2 different manufacturers things may not sound as quiet or "gel together" as well as a complete drive train from one manufacturer. I've driven a few small trucks before, not that I'm a truck driver & mostly their gearboxes are full on clunky but they seem to last forever.

With my RColt I get the clicks when engaging & disengaging but its working 100% of the time providing positive drive. One thing that does irritate me more than the clicking is if I shift too reverse to quickly after the car has stopped, I get a crunch. I put this down to the synchros. Leaving the clutch in longer or double clutching before shifting to reverse usually solves the crunch.

Thats my RColt clutch 5 cents worth :p

[Corosith]

Just a word of advice, when I owned my 180sx it had a heavy duty clutch installed in it which was just like the colt - noisy and clunky, especially when disengaged with the pedal fully depressed. After a while I found the clutch was starting to slip and the pedal had a terribly long throw between engaged/disengaged - not good for quick shifts. I went back to the place from which I bought it from and they indicated to me that the clutch was worn out and need replacment (yeah right), which was absolutely rediculous after having it installed only 6 months earlier (& I don't do burnouts!). Luckily I got a second opinion from a gearbox and clutch specialist who after five minutes decide the problem was down to the pedal being out of adjustment. Not only did it cure the slipping clutch but he set it up so that the engage/disengage point was reasonably close to the floor - much better! No point in having a short shifter if you have to pump your leg half a mile every time!:)

[Jusnippinout]

MY RColt is approaching 9000kms with no probs so far. However, as a former competitor (rallying and karts) and long-time owner of performance road cars and bikes (now 51 yrs old), I believe some of the issues here relate to the type of gearbox and clutch used. Both are allegedly high performance units (Getrag and Sachs both have solid reputations in competition circles), and such units are inherently noisy and 'agricultural'.

To be honest, the 'noisy' gearbox and clutch in the RColt is quite civilised, compared to genuine competition units. I recommend that, if any of you get the chance, take a ride in a fully-modified race car. Then you'll know what 'noisy' really means! Cogs cut to be really strong are noisy critters, and stiff engine/gearbox mounts transmit more of that noise to the shell and occupants - that's just how it is.

When you're driving a race/rally car, you'll find that crash helmets serve more than one purpose - firstly to protect your noggin but secondly to protect your hearing! I once drove a highly modified Mini Cooper S - straight-cut gears, ultra-tight LSD, solid engine mounts, solid suspension and steering mounts, all sound-proofing removed, etc. Believe me when I say, you REALLY can't hear yourself think in there. The noise is incredible.

Unless you have problems with actual performance of the gearbox and clutch, or a 'new' noise suddenly appears, I wouldn't worry too much.

[fuse01]

thansk for the advise. i will bring it back during my next servicing and see if it can be resolved .. will keep you posted .. by the way i will also try to record the sound as it can be reproduced on demand heheheh

[Macca]

Personally i love the noisy gearbox, sounds strong inside. HAHA

with the crunching going into reverse, pritty much ALL of the manual cars and vans i have driven do this, just make sure your not going forward at all when going into reverse.

[McCoy]

MY RColt is approaching 9000kms with no probs so far. However, as a former competitor (rallying and karts) and long-time owner of performance road cars and bikes (now 51 yrs old), I believe some of the issues here relate to the type of gearbox and clutch used. Both are allegedly high performance units (Getrag and Sachs both have solid reputations in competition circles), and such units are inherently noisy and 'agricultural'.

To be honest, the 'noisy' gearbox and clutch in the RColt is quite civilised, compared to genuine competition units. I recommend that, if any of you get the chance, take a ride in a fully-modified race car. Then you'll know what 'noisy' really means! Cogs cut to be really strong are noisy critters, and stiff engine/gearbox mounts transmit more of that noise to the shell and occupants - that's just how it is.

When you're driving a race/rally car, you'll find that crash helmets serve more than one purpose - firstly to protect your noggin but secondly to protect your hearing! I once drove a highly modified Mini Cooper S - straight-cut gears, ultra-tight LSD, solid engine mounts, solid suspension and steering mounts, all sound-proofing removed, etc. Believe me when I say, you REALLY can't hear yourself think in there. The noise is incredible.

Unless you have problems with actual performance of the gearbox and clutch, or a 'new' noise suddenly appears, I wouldn't worry too much.


I hear you brother! The older gen getrag's used to be whiney old buggers, but the trade off was they can hanlde lots of stress, torque and power.

[miss evo]

My 06 has just started making the clicking noise that you can hear from the passenger side front wheel area... Its only got 23000km... Did anyone end up hearing anything further about the issue... Or did everyone just deal with the annoying noise it makes...??

[why_bother]

got more information on it? when you say clicking noise, it's not the airconditioning clutch going on and off is it?

[banana]

got more information on it? when you say clicking noise, it's not the airconditioning clutch going on and off is it?

hmmm i get dat click some sometimes when i release the acceleration pedal. it sounds like the airconditioning click it always makes when u turn it on. mostly happens when i downshift.



how do you get rid of it??

[Corosith]

It's hard to say what it is, could have something to do with wheel bearings, then again it might be nothing. I reckon I've had that clicking at one stage, but it is now gone, same with front brakes lightly squeaking, that comes and goes too!:rolleyes:

[mrcnugget]

take ur car in and get the clutch looked at dnt take no for an answer, mines goin in for 2nd on now and apparently the issue is being looked at by mitsubishi australia, and mines a special case now since itd been fixed by replacing the clutch which got rid of the weird take off whining noise in first but its now back, so they gotta do sumthing. cos it aint normal.

[edge]

my noise came back again too, but i've did some track days and im sure the clutch should already wear out a bit, will they still change it for me?

and btw after 1k service i never go back to mitshi for a single service, will that affect my argue power to replace the clutch for me?

[mrcnugget]

no it shouldnt change anything because your car is still under warranty, id still be taking my car back to mitsu for some servicing but. its a common fault so they should know what your talking about straight away.

[McCoy]

You'c want to be careful about the advice you give there. If MMAL or the Dealer concerned can prove you've done track work with your car (and let's face it, some of you fella's have photo's of your car at the track on forums all over the place, with posts talking about your experiences at track days etc...) then they can void your warranty on that basis.

It's VERY clear in the manual what MMAL will and will not cover, regardless of what the problem may or may not be, they can reject your claim if missuse of their product has taken place.

[ob1tanobey]

i noticed that whuurr noise 5000kms ago and just didn't take notice. i've done 16000kms now and its really getting annoying! it just sounds unhealthy, i'm sure anyone who hears it will say, something is wrong with your car. Its not normal, anyone that says otherwise is :confused: ahahhaha. I did take it in and complained about it. they had a look at it and they gave me back my car saying that they need to order some part from mitsubishi. i think it was a 'something hose'?? so now i'm waiting for the part to come in from mitsubishi so i can book it in again for repairs. another wasted day. anyone know what that hose she was talking about?

laters

[Nic85]

i noticed that whuurr noise 5000kms ago and just didn't take notice. i've done 16000kms now and its really getting annoying! it just sounds unhealthy, i'm sure anyone who hears it will say, something is wrong with your car. Its not normal, anyone that says otherwise is :confused: ahahhaha. I did take it in and complained about it. they had a look at it and they gave me back my car saying that they need to order some part from mitsubishi. i think it was a 'something hose'?? so now i'm waiting for the part to come in from mitsubishi so i can book it in again for repairs. another wasted day. anyone know what that hose she was talking about?

laters

The "whirring" noise has been covered a few times on these forums. It's actually a glazing put on the clutch plate to stop corrosion during transport of the cars from Japan to Australia. The glaze was supposed to wear off after a while, but on a lot cars, it hasen't. The fix is a new clutch plate, pressure plate and machined flywheel. What kind of hose she's talking about is anyone's guess. Doesn't sound like anything to do with your problem.

[Julz]

im getting the 'clutch lining' replaced sometime soon. Just took my car in for the 20k service and mentioned the problem again. This time they realised what the problem was and are ordering in the part from Sydney.

[ob1tanobey]

The "whirring" noise has been covered a few times on these forums. It's actually a glazing put on the clutch plate to stop corrosion during transport of the cars from Japan to Australia. The glaze was supposed to wear off after a while, but on a lot cars, it hasen't. The fix is a new clutch plate, pressure plate and machined flywheel. What kind of hose she's talking about is anyone's guess. Doesn't sound like anything to do with your problem.

:eek: sounds like a big job. well they said that they will be needing the car for 2 full days. i hope that they are replacing what you just mentioned then. maybe she was just making some sh8 up. if it was just some hose, i don't think that they would need the car for that long?? *shrugs* who knows, i'll c wat happens next week. thanks, laters

[edge]

^^^^^^^^^^^ hey mate where about u took your car in for the replacement? coz i need to replace my clutch as well, it came to the point where when i start the car it have those very old car squeaking noise, just sometimes....

[Spaceboy]

with the crunching going into reverse, pritty much ALL of the manual cars and vans i have driven do this, just make sure your not going forward at all when going into reverse.

you just need to give the synchro time, the owners manual recommends clutch in for 5 seconds before trying to engage reverse.

if you need reverse asap, whack it into 4th and then straight into reverse, you will never crunch again.

[Nic85]

:eek: sounds like a big job. well they said that they will be needing the car for 2 full days. i hope that they are replacing what you just mentioned then. maybe she was just making some sh8 up. if it was just some hose, i don't think that they would need the car for that long?? *shrugs* who knows, i'll c wat happens next week. thanks, laters

2 days? Clutch out, replace pressure plate and clutch plate, machine flywheel, put gearbox back in. Should take about 6 - 8 hours.

[Turbo_Tim]

Yeah the reverse thing is normal. There is no syncro on reverse anyway (or shouldnt be?). Should just be a dog engagement. Sometimes they just dont like up well either which is why in some cars you need to go back to 1st then reverse again.

[ob1tanobey]

2 days? Clutch out, replace pressure plate and clutch plate, machine flywheel, put gearbox back in. Should take about 6 - 8 hours.

proly need another day for a joy ride... A*&HOLES....

[ob1tanobey]

^^^^^^^^^^^ hey mate where about u took your car in for the replacement? coz i need to replace my clutch as well, it came to the point where when i start the car it have those very old car squeaking noise, just sometimes....

Blaxland Rd....Campbelltown Mitsubishi dealer... SYDNEY

[ob1tanobey]

The "whirring" noise has been covered a few times on these forums. It's actually a glazing put on the clutch plate to stop corrosion during transport of the cars from Japan to Australia. The glaze was supposed to wear off after a while, but on a lot cars, it hasen't. The fix is a new clutch plate, pressure plate and machined flywheel. What kind of hose she's talking about is anyone's guess. Doesn't sound like anything to do with your problem.


Hey man, do you know who posted that topic and who got it fixed? I got mine back but they only replaced the clutch plate and its still making the same noise?
thanks...

[Corosith]

Nic85 had it done - see other thread on clutch issues!:)

[edge]

shit....i've been to lander mitshi and they said i've change my oem pully so they don't warrant me on the clutch which i think is bullshit, but now i'll need to get the pully off and see if other dealers and change it for me, because my clutch are now creating some seriously noise when ever i start the car and press the clutch :(

[Corosith]

Sounds like crap to me and I'd find it hard to see a direct link between the pully affecting the clutch, but then again it is up to their discretion whether their particular franchise will foot the bill for the clutch. Maybe ask them straight out how they could possibly figure out a relationship between the clutch and pully!

Their is also plenty of evidence on this site to suggest that there is a factory fault with many of the clutches, and that it is not a wear issue. Maybe approach them with some documentation from this site showing the existence of other people having their clutches changed over under warranty. Also tell them that other dealerships have admitted that such a fault exists and it is not a "one off".

[lovecolt]

As far as i know, Lander Mitsibishi is probably the dealer in NSW that replaces most of the clutch claims for RColt. Therefore, i trust them knowing what they know for our clutches.

[Spaceboy]

but then again it is up to their discretion whether their particular franchise will foot the bill for the clutch.


nar that cant be right, surely they must send the bill to mitsubishi?

if you ask me i wouldnt modify given there are known warranty issues with the car.

[mrcnugget]

soo much worry about clutches, mines gone in for the 2nd one but they havent worried about it because it is all under research at the moment and when they find out the actual cause they will do something about iit. just make sure u keep tellin them about it but.

[Spaceboy]

it is all under research at the moment and when they find out the actual cause they will do something about iit.

i hope your right! :)

[stylo]

Write letters of complaint and make sure you date them and put the number of kms there are on your car.

Worst case is if they tell you 'later on' that there is an issue with the clutch but your car has done too many kms now and it is now a wear and tear issue.

Hence they use the, "if we find nothing wrong with the clutch, you pay for our labour costs", line on you.

[mrcnugget]

i am right, been through many arguments, at one stage threatened that i was going to demand a new car if they couldnt fix the job properly and give me a proper answer, but now that i kno its all under investigation im going to leave it but just keep on throwing in my comments each service untill it goes bang or gets all replaced again

[Corosith]

Spaceboy - nar that cant be right, surely they must send the bill to mitsubishi?

if you ask me i wouldnt modify given there are known warranty issues with the car.

That's right, the claim if made, would most probably have to go through Mitsubishi Australia to approve (McCoy might be able to shed some light on that), but all the same, the dealer will obviously try and find something void the claim so that they will not have to deal with it (doesn't make any money for them at the end of the day). Basically it's your word agiainst theirs and up to you to prove that the mod hasn't affected the clutch.

Unfortunately this leaves a bad taste in the mouth of the customer, and I would like to think that they would approve a claim on the basis that the customer might come back in the future and buy their next car from there. If they treat the customer like crap then obviously they will not have a second thought about coming back to buy another car from that dealer, or even worse, not buy another Mitsubishi.

These issues are not confined to Mitsubishi either, Nissan have quite a few claims knocked back from the parent company Nissan Australia, and I've read pages of complaints about claims mainly to do with their 4x4s'. The dealer pretty much handballs the claim to Nissan Australia, and that's when life gets hard for the customer.

There really is no easy answer to this situation except to keep your colt standard if you are worried about big ticket warranty claims!:rolleyes:

[why_bother]

I'm dropping the car in next Wednesday for my replacement clutch (warranty) to get rid of that noise. I'm away for a week again after that so I'll post up the reciepts etc for it. Window recall is getting done while it's there too.

Sweet ey, replacement clutch @ 30,000kms.. good to go!

[Corosith]

What were your symptoms, rattling noise on idle (especially on startup), just the usual grinding type noise or actual clutch slipping?

[Julz]

im getting my clutch done next thursday for the grinding noise problem. They better be able to do it in one day else im keping their loan car overnight whether they like it or not

[Macca]

they should let you have the loan car overnight anyways, mine took 2 days.

my dealer has given there loan car out for like a month stright while an engine got replaced haha

[sabeli]

i think its the gearbox bearing that makes that noise i have the problem aswell but only ones in 100 times of take offs.