Tyre choices

[radiostar69]

Well after 5 months and 15,000km my tyres are just about worn out...not happy! As grippy as the AD07's are, im not buying another set only to have to replace them in another 6months. Does anyone know of a strong, slow wearing tyre that would fit the colt? Thought it would be best to get some idea's before forking out a butt load of $.

[fuse01]

RE-001? Toyo TR1?

[phul007]

I have found it is always a compromise, life vs grip.

You can buy tyres that will last you a life time but have no grip or feel.
Then you can buy a Yokohama or Pirelli and have great grip but no life.

Alot of mags have tyre reports so try them , I always wonder about how bias tyre guys are as I really think they just push the brand they can sell to you and not the best you should have.

P.S My Magna tyres have been on for 14 months and they still have 99% tread Oh! but I have done about 2K in that time, thanks Company Car even if its a piece of crap.

Good luck and let us know how you get on as the Wife's Colt will probably need a set in 6 months time.

[Julz]

what you need is some taxi tyres - have a look at a cab and see what they use :)

might be worth considering buying a new set of rims and tyres. Theyre cheap from tempe tyres - dont know what shitty cheapo tyres they give you tho.

Are your AD07 bald? They'd make a good track slick tyre as long as theyre not about to explode :)

[radiostar69]

what you need is some taxi tyres - have a look at a cab and see what they use :)

might be worth considering buying a new set of rims and tyres. Theyre cheap from tempe tyres - dont know what shitty cheapo tyres they give you tho.

Are your AD07 bald? They'd make a good track slick tyre as long as theyre not about to explode :)

lol, dont think ill go the taxi route! Tyre's still have a bit of life on them yet...but i am almost down to the wear point... So as long as i dont get pulled over, and dont do too many twisty mcfisty runs...they should last til xmas...i hope:D

[Julz]

lol, dont think ill go the taxi route! Tyre's still have a bit of life on them yet...but i am almost down to the wear point... So as long as i dont get pulled over, and dont do too many twisty mcfisty runs...they should last til xmas...i hope:D

heh u should be ok in summer as long as it doesnt rain - just think of them as slicks, very little tread but good grip once theyre warmed up and the road is dry

[radiostar69]

If only i didnt live half an hr from the wettest part of Victoria! Its always bloody raining down this way...Currently getting some quotes on some Toyo "Proxis 4"...best price round here is $150-175ea...anyone had experience with these? Or some Hancook silica's??? Still waiting on a price.

[lovecolt]

Are your AD07 bald? They'd make a good track slick tyre as long as theyre not about to explode :)

I do hope you are joking there as its a wrong concept to have. :mad:

AD07 is known to be a soft compound grippy tyres. If you want similar grip with longer lifespan, you can for bridgestone top of the line street tyre. I think its called RE-01R, but they ain't expensive. (more expensive than AD07) Hence as said, you get for what you pay for.

Otherwise, i heard good things about RE-001 Adrenlin tyres from Bridgestone.

[Darthrev]

Well after 5 months and 15,000km

damn, clocking the kms up fast mate, prol take me three years to get those k's up :)

Lucky I live close to work :D

[radiostar69]

Yea...i like to drive alot...mostly trips down to Melb or down around the Great Ocean Road...too many nice roads close by and nothing to do in the country!

[McCoy]

Adrenlin is a big yes, and as far as bang for buck, its hard to beat them. T1-R's are great, aswell as cheap but they do pick up stones and drop them easily, and the side walls are very squishy compared to the AD07's

Goodyear Eagle GSD-3 F1's are great in a 205/45R16 (some tyres are better at different sizes) but you HAVE to make sure you get the german goodyears, anything else is severely cheaper in quality.

If you want somthing equally grippy as the AD07's you could try the Falken azenis RT-215 or RT-615's both are AWESOME tyres.

I hear what your saying about longevity, but the AD07's as standard OEM fitment on our cars is about as high up on the food chain as road tyres go, I reckon there better than the OEM tyres for evo 9. So anything you get (apart from the falken's which are about as close to a semi-slick as you can get, and they are an R-compund so tyre life is fairly short) just wont stack up well in regards to grip.

Sure there exxy, but tyres are the ONLY thing separating you and the road, and as far as safety is concerned, I dont reckon skimping is worth it.

[radiostar69]

As much as id love to be spending around $250 a side, my budget constraints unfortuantly only allow me to go to around $150-170...I can get the Toyo Proxies 4 for around $150 a side...which from reviews seems to have a reasonable amount of grip, but they also last quite a while...Choices, choices:confused:

[lovecolt]

Since your AD07 still have life in it, i'm sure you can save up abit more ??? $250 for a AD07 is rather bang for your buck.

[Macca]

http://www.cheaptyres4u.com.au

[Flipper]

Have a look at this site for good, consumer provided reviews as well as professional tests. I used to get all my wheels/tires from them before I moved to Australia.

You need to make sure you're comparing the right tires since they change the name on a lot of them when sold in different countries. It'll make all of you sick when you realize how overpriced all our tires are over here!!!

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP

[why_bother]

Out of interest whilst waiting for my missus to knock off work, I did the rounds to a few local tyre shops in adelaide.

Out of the shops I went to, There were chain tyre stores and independent ones too...


All of them said to get the Toyo proxies. All around $150 a pop. They all said the Yokahamas were excellent tyres, but if they had to choose they would pick the Toyo tyre over it.

$600 compared to $1000 for 4 tyres... I know what I'd rather.

[Julz]

Out of interest whilst waiting for my missus to knock off work, I did the rounds to a few local tyre shops in adelaide.

Out of the shops I went to, There were chain tyre stores and independent ones too...


All of them said to get the Toyo proxies. All around $150 a pop. They all said the Yokahamas were excellent tyres, but if they had to choose they would pick the Toyo tyre over it.

$600 compared to $1000 for 4 tyres... I know what I'd rather.

do you know which model proxies they suggested? probably some differences between them..

I hear Nexens are good cheap tyres to get but i guess $150 is pretty reasonable already

[lovecolt]

Out of interest whilst waiting for my missus to knock off work, I did the rounds to a few local tyre shops in adelaide.

Out of the shops I went to, There were chain tyre stores and independent ones too...


All of them said to get the Toyo proxies. All around $150 a pop. They all said the Yokahamas were excellent tyres, but if they had to choose they would pick the Toyo tyre over it.

$600 compared to $1000 for 4 tyres... I know what I'd rather.

Do you honestly believe a word they said?? Sorry to say, but they are almost like the service department of all dealership where half the time, they don't even know what they are talking about. I bet they based their recommendation on the normal yoko tyres and since AD07 is dead new to Aus, i don't think they know much about it.

[McCoy]

The toyo's are good, but they dont get near the AD07. This is true. They have squishy sidewalls for a start, they go 'off' quickly, and they are almost useless at a track day. The same cant be said about the AD07's

[white horse]

The toyo's are good, but they dont get near the AD07. This is true. They have squishy sidewalls for a start, they go 'off' quickly, and they are almost useless at a track day. The same cant be said about the AD07's

Hey McCoy
Can i ask you how is the Falken RT615 compare AD07 ,i have already upgrade to 17" alloy with Yoko S.Drive 215/40/17 ,it doesnt feel as responsive as 16"(factory wheel)and make the steering a bit slow to turn,just feel not as good as before, so i decided to go back to factory rims but my AD07s is wear out ,need new tyres for it ,my friend is painting the rims to black like what you did,looks excellent .I have use Toyo T1R ,i know what they like ,side wall too soft,grip is just average i think !

[McCoy]

Have a look here: http://www.falken.com.au/tyres/passenger-RT615.html

You will struggle to find 16" though. You may be lucky to get some fo the older RT 215's and if you can, grab em with both hands. The 615's have a good "land ratio" (contact area) the sidewalls are hard as buggery, plus they have rim protection (most decent tyres will though) They heat up like an AD07, and they have similar charcteristics, like the warmer they get, the better they grip. (no doubt you know this already)

They are a good competition tyre, some of the field for targa tassie use them, the wear rate is similar to AD07, but not quite as short, they dont pick up stones and hold them like T1-R's do, and they arent as good in the wet.

All in all, about as good a performance tyre as money can buy.

[white horse]

Have a look here: http://www.falken.com.au/tyres/passenger-RT615.html

You will struggle to find 16" though. You may be lucky to get some fo the older RT 215's and if you can, grab em with both hands. The 615's have a good "land ratio" (contact area) the sidewalls are hard as buggery, plus they have rim protection (most decent tyres will though) They heat up like an AD07, and they have similar charcteristics, like the warmer they get, the better they grip. (no doubt you know this already)

They are a good competition tyre, some of the field for targa tassie use them, the wear rate is similar to AD07, but not quite as short, they dont pick up stones and hold them like T1-R's do, and they arent as good in the wet.

All in all, about as good a performance tyre as money can buy.

Thanks for your info ,damn it, the RT 615 havent got for 16" ,i remember someone said we can buy AD07 in some tyre shop ?but what about from our local dealership ?

[why_bother]

The toyo's are good, but they dont get near the AD07. This is true. They have squishy sidewalls for a start, they go 'off' quickly, and they are almost useless at a track day. The same cant be said about the AD07's

Fair enough, I wouldn't really know because I'm not a tyre expert. But by the sounds of things, who is? If the guys that sell them every day don't know what they're talking about, who does?

Fact of the matter is, I'm not paying $250 per tyre. I took a pretty large sample from 7 different stores in a CBD and surround areas, for all of these joints to say the same thing.. the tyre must carry some sort of merit.

I've never really considered going to any track days thus far, and can safely assume I probably won't be going any time soon. I'm not a boyracer, I don't push my vehicle to the limits on unsuspecting suburban 50kmph corners. I just wanted a decent car to get around in that doesn't smash my hip pocket every time I wanna stick rubber on it. With my wandering eyes I've noticed there's a few people who feel the same.

$150 each (fitted/balanced)

Website:

http://www.toyo.com.au/PCRPDFs/Proxes%204.pdf

[radiostar69]

Cheers and beers for all the info guys...ill keep ya posted with what i get when i stick them on round xmas...but at this point the Proxies are looking like the ones...If only i got paid more in radio...then id be going for something alot stickier...bastardo's!:mad:

[aby82]

Thanks for your info ,damn it, the RT 615 havent got for 16" ,i remember someone said we can buy AD07 in some tyre shop ?but what about from our local dealership ?

white horse - ad07 availability is fine at any yokohama dealer australia-wide now - i just got a new set of ad07's at the local bob jane.. and it only took em a day to get them in

[white horse]

white horse - ad07 availability is fine at any yokohama dealer australia-wide now - i just got a new set of ad07's at the local bob jane.. and it only took em a day to get them in

:p Thanks for telling me that ,how much you paid for the AD07s

[Julz]

:p Thanks for telling me that ,how much you paid for the AD07s

i paid $250 for one from bob janes

[Steve-B]

pretty sure we are meant to get them discounted, something i read awhile back on here, maybe 210-220 wasnt it... ?

edit: have my wires crossed, heres what i thought i remembered...
http://www.rcolt.com/showthread.php?t=290&page=5&highlight=petition

[aby82]

yeah steve the discount offer is no more..

white_horse - mine where about $250 each as well - the old ones lasted about 30000k's, hopefully i can get a bit more life out of the new ones.. (i'm not driving like a madman all the time anymore ;) so its a possibility)

[Macca]

i paid $235 for one ad07 fitted.

[GucciPiggy]

Well all four of my AD07s are now stuffed thanks to the road near work being covered with metal filings :mad: . I have just bitten the bullet and ordered a set of Bridgestone Adrenalin in 205/40 R17 and a set of Advanti rims http://www.yhi.com.au/ADVANTI/ADVANTI%20BIG/03_kaos_big.jpg. I am having them fitted tomorrow so I will let you know how they feel on the rcolt.

[rukboy11]

I had these on my S15, great handling tyres imo...cost just under $250 a tyre for 16" from memory....

http://www.dunloptyres.com.au/TyreBrowseAction.do?website=DUN&websegment1=PASSENGER

Ohh i also got them from some tyre shop at Blacktown (NSW) behind the RSL they were the cheapest from about 6 places i called up.

[Corosith]

GucciPiggy Well all four of my AD07s are now stuffed thanks to the road near work being covered with metal filings . I have just bitten the bullet and ordered a set of Bridgestone Adrenalin in 205/40 R17 and a set of Advanti rims http://www.yhi.com.au/ADVANTI/ADVANT...3_kaos_big.jpg. I am having them fitted tomorrow so I will let you know how they feel on the rcolt.

I'd complain to the local council and screw some money out of them, I know of some guys who have successfully put a formal complaint in about neglected pot holes destroying low-profile rims - worth a try as you have nothing to lose!

[Julz]

Well all four of my AD07s are now stuffed thanks to the road near work being covered with metal filings :mad: . I have just bitten the bullet and ordered a set of Bridgestone Adrenalin in 205/40 R17 and a set of Advanti rims http://www.yhi.com.au/ADVANTI/ADVANTI%20BIG/03_kaos_big.jpg. I am having them fitted tomorrow so I will let you know how they feel on the rcolt.

damn i feel for you - how much tread did ur ad07s have left? did they all get punctures??

[GucciPiggy]

I have done just over 20k on the tyres but most of that was commuting. I reckon they had at least 10k left in them. I just heard back from Bob Jane and they are repairable, 5 punctures in total. I am going to get them fixed and keep for resale/track days.

As for getting some money back, I am not sure I can as it is a private road/industrial estate where I think it happened. At the very least a nasty letter with some empty threats is in order.

What do you guys think of my rim choice? It was a bit of a rushed decision so I am nervous to see how they look on the car.

[Macca]

not too bad looking, a lil too much chrome for me :P

[Corosith]

It's all personal choice RE what wheel will suit your colt, but for me , Red Rcolt = White rims, just can't get away from that Tommi Makkinen (probably spelt wrong) Evo6 rally look. All depends on what sort of look you are after I guess, just don't rush into buying rims, insist on the wheel shop to place the desired up against the colt to see if it suits.:)

[aby82]

hey gucci,

i reckon those rims will look pretty sweet on ur red rcolt, r u gonna lower it as well?? cant wait to see what they look like on ur ride :D

[Julz]

i reckon the rims from the new colt look hot! i wouldnt mind getting those :)

[GucciPiggy]

I have found a better picture > http://www.monza-japan.co.jp/download_page/download_img/r-version_car_1024.jpg

I think they will look okay but I will double check this arvo. The Monza Japan website (where I think these are manufactured) shows them only coming in 4x100 stud pattern so I hope Bob Jane have not stuffed up.

I would love to lower the car but even at stock height my front bar scrapes on the driveway into my garage. I will have to wait until I move in March. I guess the upside is it will give me time to save for some coil overs.

[Corosith]

GucciPiggy
I would love to lower the car but even at stock height my front bar scrapes on the driveway into my garage. I will have to wait until I move in March. I guess the upside is it will give me time to save for some coil overs.
3 Hours Ago 06:37 AM

When my rcolt was lowered I thought I was scraping my front bar on a few things, but eventually realised that it was only the rubber/plastic flap under the front bar that scraping!:)

[Julz]

what does that plastic strip do at the bottom of the car? is it to stop water/dirt flicking up into the engine bay?

[GucciPiggy]

Yeah the majority of the scraping is from that but I have also grazed the bumper itself a couple of times. The driveway into my garage has to be the worst designed bit of concrete in the country. My friend parked his new commodore in there and we had to build a ramp to get it out!!

[IndoBoy]

Advanti is a sister brand to Enkei Japan

[GucciPiggy]

Well they are on and so far very happy. From my short drive so far I can say the tyres turn in much better than the (albeit worn) AD07s. Tyre noise is so far much quiter though time will tell how they go as they wear in. The steering is much lighter which I am not sure I like. I am going to go for a mountain run tomorrow to really test them out.

One thing I am worried about is that the tread is assymetrical so they can't be stripped and flipped like the advans to prolong life.

[Macca]

advans are directional tyres too, you can swap fronts to rears, but not left to right

[Corosith]

Tell me about it Macca, I sweated my ass off changing my 18" wheels back to my stockies, only to realise that I had the wrong wheel on the wrong side, won't make that mistake again- lol!:D

[GucciPiggy]

There is a difference between directional and assymetrical tyres. Directional tyres like the AD07 are symmetrical which means there is not an outside to the tire. You can remove the tyre and flip them on the rim. This means the inside of the right tyre becomes the outside of the left tyre but the tyre is still facing the right direction. Asymetrical tyres on the other hand have a definite outside and inside which means they can't be stripped and flipped.

Obviously becase ff cars chew out the outside shoulders first, being able to strip and flip the tyres is an advantage.

[Macca]

ahhh i see what you mean now, but who would be bothered taking the tyre off the rim to flip it LOL

My last 2 sets of tyres, i roatated front and rear, they both lasted like 2 years 60,000 kms without uneven ware on the mirage.

[lovecolt]

ahhh i see what you mean now, but who would be bothered taking the tyre off the rim to flip it LOL

My last 2 sets of tyres, i roatated front and rear, they both lasted like 2 years 60,000 kms without uneven ware on the mirage.

Mirage's too weak to cause any wear :D